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re: The VA Scandal

Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:49 am to
Posted by the808bass
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:49 am to
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It's hard to take seriously. Is this Benghazi level rage? Fast and Furious? IRS? Other manufactured scandal?

The fact you think any of those are manufactured scandals makes me take you much less seriously.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29123 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 12:05 pm to
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The fact you think any of those are manufactured scandals makes me take you much less seriously.


I'm a raging right wing nutjob and think fast and furious and Beng. were screwups at best and political CYA at worst( F&F may have the gun control element behind it, but that's right wing conjecture speaking.) Both suck that lives we're lost, but not the worst controversy in the last 4 administrations.

The IRS targeting a should scare the heck out of each and every one of you. That the government would scrutinize a party based on political leaning. Flip the script and those on the left would absolutely outraged beyond Nixonian levels.
This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35710 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:04 pm to
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The fact you think any of those are manufactured scandals makes me take you much less seriously.


Oh please. I wasn't exacting enough in.my language because the IRS is scandal worthy.

IRS, worth looking into but little has been proven. No one wants the POTUS to use the IRS as a political tool. Have we been able to prove any significant wrong doing?

Benghazi has been manufactured political outrage almost from go. There's a question worth exploring in the lack of security leading up to it, but after that it doesn't matter. The constant beating of this drum is nothing but red meat for the partisans. Find evidence of Hillary ignoring the security concernd, and you may have a story. In two years there's nothing more than more conjecture. The only reason the right is outraged is the Democrats in office.

The right has been throwing shite against the wall hoping it would stick for the entirety of the Obama administration. It's hard to take any of it seriously until you can show some rock solid evidence. I'm right there with you if you can prove any of it.

Give me a proper scandal (like this VA shite appears to be) and I won't think the right is just angry at their sour grapes.

This post was edited on 5/17/14 at 2:05 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 2:39 pm to
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The fact you think any of those are manufactured scandals makes me take you much less seriously.


Those are manufactured, though. Very few of those were Presidential Problems -- nothing like 9/11 or the debacle of Iraq. President Obama had very little (at the moment) to do with -any- of those. Fast and Furious has been in the making for over a decade, IRS has a very lucid targeting algorithim that just happened to get more conservative groups than progressives and Benghazi, at worst, was a regional problem and as stated had nothing to do with upper echelon.
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