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re: What do people get out of going to church on Easter once a year?
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:47 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:47 am to Roger Klarvin
I think a more accurate portrayal of Hell is not separation from God, but just the opposite: it is being subjected to the unveiled and unrelenting wrath of God's judgment.
Hell is separation from God's love and forgiveness, but not from God.
Hell is separation from God's love and forgiveness, but not from God.
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:57 am to FooManChoo
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I think a more accurate portrayal of Hell is not separation from God, but just the opposite: it is being subjected to the unveiled and unrelenting wrath of God's judgment.
Hell is separation from God's love and forgiveness, but not from God.
The bible actually says God is glorified by those who are burning in hell and is an active participant in their punishment.
Most christians either have this false idea of what the bible says about God, or for some reason Ill never understand actually enjoy worshipping the God that the bible actually describes.
You can say all you want about mercy and love and Heaven, but any God who willfully uses the eternal torment of his creation to glorify himself (again, the bible says this not me) is a sadist. Period. He creates people knowing they will go to hell and then actively uses tat punishment to reveal his power and glory. That is the worst kind of evil imaginable, and the bible describes it in vivid detail.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:58 am to FooManChoo
@Roger Klarvin.
Ok I'll address these one at a time
1-paradise sounds meh because without pain there is no joy or no appreciation of joy. That's what this life is for. We remember the fallen nature of this world so we can appreciate the wonder of heaven.
2-belief in jesus isn't necessarily a cognitive mental belief. You can believe jesus existed mentally yet not be saved. The whole point of belief in Christ is a change of the heart to follow what he says. What he tells me to do is love others, be honest, humble, faithful, non violent, forgiving, caring, and tender hearted. Imagine if the whole world was filled with people who practiced those qualities. That's why I follow him. I love his teaching and what he stands for. Thus I live my life by what he says. I hate murder, racism, rape, theft, divorce, etc. likewise christ teaches against all of those things. I just find lots of truth in his teachings which encourages me to live my life that way. And this is all before any scientific evidence supporting the existence of god is even entered into the arguement. But I respect that you have your opinion and I won't curse or degrade you.
Ok I'll address these one at a time
1-paradise sounds meh because without pain there is no joy or no appreciation of joy. That's what this life is for. We remember the fallen nature of this world so we can appreciate the wonder of heaven.
2-belief in jesus isn't necessarily a cognitive mental belief. You can believe jesus existed mentally yet not be saved. The whole point of belief in Christ is a change of the heart to follow what he says. What he tells me to do is love others, be honest, humble, faithful, non violent, forgiving, caring, and tender hearted. Imagine if the whole world was filled with people who practiced those qualities. That's why I follow him. I love his teaching and what he stands for. Thus I live my life by what he says. I hate murder, racism, rape, theft, divorce, etc. likewise christ teaches against all of those things. I just find lots of truth in his teachings which encourages me to live my life that way. And this is all before any scientific evidence supporting the existence of god is even entered into the arguement. But I respect that you have your opinion and I won't curse or degrade you.
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