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re: Mizzou Admits They F*cked Up Sexual Assault Case of Student Athlete

Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:27 am to
Posted by JDHLaw
Member since Jun 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:27 am to
I somehow missed this gem in responding to roadhouse.

Let's take a crack at it:

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And Anderson's testimony contradicts what she wrote in her diary. So you believe one and not the other, that really the gist of what you have been getting at through multiple posts all the while pointing fingers at Mizzou fans for being "biased". Hilarious.


Anderson's testimony is what it is. At best, she was told that Courey didn't want to come back to school because something bad happened. At worst, she was told that Courey was raped and failed to report it. Either way, I don't think the implication is that everything was hunky-dory in the handling of this matter.

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Do you realize this woman attempted suicide two other times in completely unrelated situations to here alleged rape? She has a history of mental illness that neither herself or her parents thought "important" to inform the University of Missouri about prior to attending.


And? Does this mean she wasn't raped at Missouri? Does this absolve Missouri for the failure to implement policies regarding handling reports and investigating allegations of sexual assault by Missouri students? Does it mean she didn't report the rape to Anderson? Does it absolve Missouri for failing to investigate the rape after Courey's death?

The report finds fault for Missouri's failure to implement policies, did the investigators screw up? General Counsel said Missouri dropped the ball, should he rescind his statement? The investigators specifically found fault for Missouri failing to investigate the assault after Courey's death and debunked the claim that 'privacy concerns' kept an investigation from happening. Does the fact that Courey had mental health issues change any of that?

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You mean like the independent investigator who found "no definitive conclusion".


You're still having trouble with this. The investigators could not "definitively conclude" that Anderson knew of the rape. Definitive necessarily means a standard higher than "more probable than not."

If you had to take these facts, could you find a greater than 50% chance of one over the other? Not definitive, not undisputed, but more probable?

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The only one in this thread drawing conclusions outside the scope of the report is you Grits. Everyone else seems to be taking the report at face value and accepting that there are procedural issues that need to be improved at Mizzou concerning reporting after the fact.


Read the report again. Two findings will stand out to you and are more than "procedural" issues:

Missouri failed to review and implement policies discussed in the Dear Colleagues letter from 2011.

Missouri failed to investigate an alleged sexual assault of a student after her suicide, citing privacy concerns that did not exist.

Posted by roadhouse
Chicago
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:33 am to
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Missouri failed to investigate an alleged sexual assault of a student after her suicide, citing privacy concerns that did not exist.



You certainly are a stickler for following procedure. Do you not see any value whatsoever in asking the parents if they'd like to investigate a possible rape of their deceased daughter? Damn the parents wishes, follow "procedure" at all costs!

Your interest in this story is pretty sick.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27447 posts
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:41 am to
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You're still having trouble with this. The investigators could not "definitively conclude" that Anderson knew of the rape. Definitive necessarily means a standard higher than "more probable than not."

If you had to take these facts, could you find a greater than 50% chance of one over the other? Not definitive, not undisputed, but more probable?


And you're still having trouble acknowledging that you are making conclusions and assumptions.

Your whole shtick in this thread is some form of white knighting against Mizzou fans because we "think" the report absolves the school. Its fairly bizarre and hints at some deeper level of angst directed towards Mizzou.

This report doesnt stain Mizzou the way you wanted it too and the way your predicted it would prior and now you are stretching and reaching through assumption and spin.

You still fail to take into consideration the bizarre circumstances surrounding the case as well.


No, Grits, its the same schtick from before just under a different screen name.



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