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re: Based on Alabama's recruiting, will they shift to more of an LSU style defense?

Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:22 am to
Posted by OldPete
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:22 am to
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So, what is this blueprint that you speak of?


The only game you mention them losing against the 2 teams I spoke of (Auburn, A&M) was the 2010 Auburn team that had Cam Newton...and it seems like LSU learned a lot from that game. In 2009 & 2011, LSU had no problem with Auburn's spread...and despite what you say 'bout A&M, their offense was shut down both times LSU faced 'em with Manziel...and according to Sumlin Manziel's thumb wasn't an issue:

Sumlin discounted a report Manziel, also held to one TD pass last week in a loss at LSU, has been hampered by a thumb injury

"If he wasn't healthy enough to play, he wouldn't have played," Sumlin said.


Their track record against spread teams since Chavis has been their DC has been very good. As for spreads outside the SEC, LSU's defense beat the spread offenses of West Virginia in 2010 & 2011, Oregon in 2011, Washington in 2012, and TCU in 2013...

The only spreads where they have struggled was with Cam Newton, Clemson (lack of motivation maybe?), and Ole Miss. As a Bama fan, since we've handled Ole Miss and Clemson pretty well in the past, I'm not as concerned with them. However, they've had great success with 2 spread teams we've struggled with, A&M and Auburn...I've always admired Chavis's defenses, both at UT and LSU...so maybe we could learn a thing or 2 from him as far as defending the spread goes...and that is the blueprint of which I speak...
Posted by MrsGarrison
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 9:34 am to
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The only game you mention them losing against the 2 teams I spoke of (Auburn, A&M) was the 2010 Auburn team that had Cam Newton...and it seems like LSU learned a lot from that game. In 2009 & 2011, LSU had no problem with Auburn's spread...and despite what you say 'bout A&M, their offense was shut down both times LSU faced 'em with Manziel...and according to Sumlin Manziel's thumb wasn't an issue:

Sumlin discounted a report Manziel, also held to one TD pass last week in a loss at LSU, has been hampered by a thumb injury

"If he wasn't healthy enough to play, he wouldn't have played," Sumlin said.

Their track record against spread teams since Chavis has been their DC has been very good. As for spreads outside the SEC, LSU's defense beat the spread offenses of West Virginia in 2010 & 2011, Oregon in 2011, Washington in 2012, and TCU in 2013...

The only spreads where they have struggled was with Cam Newton, Clemson (lack of motivation maybe?), and Ole Miss. As a Bama fan, since we've handled Ole Miss and Clemson pretty well in the past, I'm not as concerned with them. However, they've had great success with 2 spread teams we've struggled with, A&M and Auburn...I've always admired Chavis's defenses, both at UT and LSU...so maybe we could learn a thing or 2 from him as far as defending the spread goes...and that is the blueprint of which I speak...

Okay. 2011 West Virginia had 500+ yards versus LSU, and 2012 Texas A&M had 410 yards versus LSU. The difference in both games was turnovers. Look at the role turnovers played in LSU's 2011 Oregon and 2013 Auburn wins. If anything, LSU's scheme against spread teams is good at producing turnovers rather than completely shutting them down. Furthermore, the 2011 LSU defense was historic by LSU standards. Defenses that good will be pretty rare for LSU; LSU won't always have that amount of developed, realized talent and team chemistry. Few teams do nowadays.
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