MrsGarrison
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re: Perfect time to split from NCAA
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/16/14 at 2:03 pm
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Or maybe, to start, FSU was choking on such a big stage and Auburn was used to it, I mean Auburn had just beaten the #1 team (Alabama) and the #4 team a few weeks prior.
Upvote. Neither team played their best game, but Florida State ended up on top. Who in that program or on that team has had a taste of success prior to the BCS Championship Game? Florida State hadn't won a national championship in 14 years.
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re: Auburn fans..was the 2013 football season your most bittersweet.....
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/16/14 at 1:57 pm
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I'd ask LSU, Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee fans the same question but none of their teams failed to close the deal during any of their team's BCS title game appearances so they probably can't relate.
:rotflmao: 10/10 for this line. Upvoted.
re: Perfect time to split from NCAA
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/16/14 at 1:49 pm
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Auburn fans have been in a continuous state of meltdown since choking in the BCSCG
Auburn didn't choke. Florida State was the better team.
re: Why is everybody saying they are trying to slow down the HUHN?
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/15/14 at 9:25 pm
Recent lawsuits and consequent rule changes are making the game more offensively oriented. Give the defense a break to even things up a little. Defenses have to be a little more reluctant to hit hard now because they may draw a ridiculous penalty.
re: HUNH and Chief Chavis
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/15/14 at 9:18 pm
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The most obvious alter I've ever seen.
Have you seen DrJimmyRustle123?
:lol: Who do you think Urban Ohio is? Who's their true team?
re: HUNH and Chief Chavis
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/15/14 at 9:16 pm
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He also shut down WVU when Holgerson had like #1 offense at the time.
Let's not start this argument.
Giving up 465 passing yards and 21 points isn't exactly shutting a team down. Those weren't garbage time yards or points; West Virginia was initiating a comeback. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Chavis' defense is good at forcing turnovers versus HUNH teams.
What is the precise definition of shutdown?
Yards must be taken into account, but they don't always tell the whole story.
Oregon shutout Arizona in 2012, but it's because they forced several red zone turnovers.
re: HUNH and Chief Chavis
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/15/14 at 9:10 pm
Do you not know how to ensure that your topic hasn't been recently discussed on this board?
https://www.secrant.com/rant/p/48289070/Lost-in-all-the-hoopla-about-rules--and--HUNH-is-LSUs-Defensive-Coordinator.aspx
Bumping a 1 day old thread is not a problem.
https://www.secrant.com/rant/p/48289070/Lost-in-all-the-hoopla-about-rules--and--HUNH-is-LSUs-Defensive-Coordinator.aspx
Bumping a 1 day old thread is not a problem.
re: Saban to Sumlin: "You took 10 years off my life"
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/15/14 at 12:09 pm
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 8:06 pm
I'm not a woman. I sensed an exaggeration of LSU's defenses and Chavis' merits, so I responded.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 3:17 pm
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I'm not surprised. I think we all know how dominant Bama have been on D. Saying one is a great DC and has had some great Defenses doesn't take away from Saban's.
Sorry, I don't mean to come off that way.
Chavis is 3rd at worst in the conference.
Muschamp and Saban are the only two defensive coaches that are arguably as good if not better.
Indubitably, Chavis is a great defensive coordinator; he's one of the best defensive coaches in the FBS.
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One has to consider how hamstrung LSU's Defense has been by the offenses it's put out.
Yes. Florida's suffering those problems now.
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hey finally have a real, legitimate OC in Cam Cameron.
We'll see what he's made of next year, but I can agree.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 3:13 pm
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To be fair that was a heck of a good UGA team. UGA played great VS them.
Yes, a healthy 2013 Georgia offense was tough to beat, but I'm not sure it was unstoppable.
Speaking of Georgia, how much greater was the 2013 Georgia offense compared to the 2012 version?
2012 Georgia had a good offense too, but they faced significantly better defenses in 2012 South Carolina, Florida, and Alabama.
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27 points is not a ton. Especially when your offense turns over the ball 3 times.
Ole Miss had 500+ yards; they just weren't particularly efficient.
2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013 Ole Miss all had 400+ yards and 25+ points versus a Chavis defense.
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LSU was held to under 50 rushing yards. Not going to win many games like that. Plus, they had 2 turnovers. Bama was held to under 400 yards of total offense.
I'm aware of this, and Alabama only scored a field goal off of the two turnovers. Alabama had the ball deep in LSU territory after stopping LSU on 4th down and had enough time to score another touchdown. I don't think many people here would state that Alabama's offense was better than Georgia's, yet they both performed similarly versus LSU several weeks apart.
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While I can see where you're coming from I think the results overall speak for themselves. Chavis was given a young Defense and did very well with them all things considered.
That's debatable, but it's not big deal.
2010 Alabama only returned 2 starters and had to fight with injuries and complacency, yet they put up better numbers than 2013 LSU despite playing a tougher schedule.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 3:03 pm
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2013- 21st
2012- 12th
2011- 2nd
2010- 11th
2009- 11th
These number are all fair.
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Total D:
2013- 15th
2012- 8th
2011- 2nd
2010- 12th
2009- 26th
These numbers are also great.
Keep in mind that Alabama ranked higher than LSU in both categories every year in this time span.
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Rushing D:
2013- 36th
2012- 9th
2011- 5th
2010- 42nd
2009- 46th
The 2013, 2010, and 2009 ranking aren't great. Saban's defenses beat LSU every year here too.
I'd also like to point out that Alabama has several #1 rankings in the categories you listed while LSU has zero.
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2013- 13th
2012- 28th
2011- 8th
2010- 10th
2009- 29th
The 2012 and 2009 numbers aren't great. Neither Alabama or LSU had a great secondary in the past season, and Alabama narrowly managed to be ranked higher than LSU.
Out of these 20 rankings, LSU only ranked higher than Alabama in 2010 passing defense.
There's plenty of talk regarding LSU and Alabama having similar levels of talent and coaching; however, the numbers don't exactly support that argument. One can blame schedules, but I don't believe that tells the whole story, and quite frankly I wouldn't want to discuss that here.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:53 pm
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Put some context in here. What are you talking about?
That should be 44-41, 27-24, and 38-17.
The number on the left is the number of points given up by LSU in LSU's 3 losses.
The stats came from the College Football Statistics website.
https://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category09/sort01.html
https://www.cfbstats.com/2013/leader/national/team/defense/split01/category10/sort01.html
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:47 pm
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They finished with only 1 or 2 losses, won their Conference and a BCS Bowl Game. Which of their teams were better? They would've played for a National Title had they not taken that game in Dallas to start the year (Props to Kelly for not backing down).
2012 Oregon Team Statistics
2011 Oregon Team Statistics
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This sounds like excuses...I know because they normally sound like the auditory equivalent of watching someone reach or overextend themselves to do something they're otherwise incapable of.
LSU was the better team on September 21; they started the game much better. I'm unconvinced that LSU was the better team in November. Auburn changed their offense after the LSU game; that's an undeniable fact.
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LSU wins >10 games far more often than Auburn does,
Relevance? My point was that the 2011 team was exceedingly great and dominant compared to any other team of Les Miles' tenure. No other team that LSU fielded is on 2011's LSU. 2011 LSU was an all time great for LSU and completed one of the greatest regular seasons in college football history. No other Les Miles' team comes close to the number of accomplishments of 2011, the dominance, or being involved in a GOAT discussion.
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Lil' Lady.
:bwahaha:
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Please do. It's been a busy day at work and I could use the laughter.
:lol: I won't entertain you any longer.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:36 pm
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If you don't think LSU doesn't have a great D every year under Chavis idk what to tell you.
Not sure if serious.
44-11, 27-24, and 38-17 were signs of a great defense?
LSU allowed 22 points per game and 340.7 yards per game. Those numbers are far from being elite and aren't great.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:12 pm
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I think it's helped lsu that most of these games were very early in the season.
Usually the HUNH teams really hit their stride later in the year
LSU is good at forcing turnovers versus HUNH teams; however, I wouldn't call yielding 400-500+ yards shutting a team down even if you limited their scoring somehow.
2011 Oregon was not Chip Kelly's best offense or defense, for that matter.
Both quarterbacks had a bad day in the 2012 Texas A&M versus LSU game.
2013 Auburn hadn't hit its stride entering the LSU game.
2011 is an outlier for the LSU program, i.e. an unreasonable standard or representative for the LSU program, Les Miles' average team, Chavis' typical defense, etc.
What kind of offense does Clemson run?
Furthermore, the OOC results may be impressive, but unless Alabama played the same team, I fail to see how you can make a valid comparison or a strong argument?
We don't know how 2011 Alabama would have fared versus Oregon and West Virginia.
At worst, 2010 Alabama did an equal job to LSU defensively. LSU lost to Arkansas that year while Alabama found a way to defeat them.
I could go on and on. Chavis deserves some credit and respect, but not as much as you've requested.
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:04 pm
How did LSU fare versus 2012 Alabama, 2013 Georgia, and 2013 Alabama's power running games?
re: Lost in all the hoopla about rules & HUNH is LSU's Defensive Coordinator...
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 2:01 pm
Look at what Derek Mason did at Stanford the past two seasons. That's equally impressive.
re: LSU, UF, UGA, and S.Car fans
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 8:49 am
Was Bobby Petrino's offense HUNH?
I ask this because he owned South Carolina's arse between 2009 and 2011 with his offense. Clemson is a joke. They've lost to you 5 years straight. They only play two respectable programs every season and don't have an answer for South Carolina.
I ask this because he owned South Carolina's arse between 2009 and 2011 with his offense. Clemson is a joke. They've lost to you 5 years straight. They only play two respectable programs every season and don't have an answer for South Carolina.
re: Nick Saban is a coward
Posted by MrsGarrison on 2/14/14 at 8:41 am
What offenses were 2009, 2010, 2012, and 2013 Ole Miss running? They didn't have a problem moving the ball on LSU. Using 2011 results is stupid. The 2011 defense was well above your average LSU defense, and that level of play will be rare. Chavis doesn't have a great answer for stopping the run apparently.
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