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aTm rise: SEC, Sumlin, or UT decline?

Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:52 pm
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:52 pm
Not flaming, trolling or anything else here. Rarely start any threads but wanted to ask.

aTm, congrats on another great class. Seeing what you have done the past few seasons leads me to the question.
What do you think the biggest contributor is of the recent success? I like Sumlin and think he is a really good coach, with someone like that, it always brings success on field and recruiting. Or is it the move to the SEC? I'm sure a lot of home grown players like the idea of staying in Texas AND getting to play in the SEC. And since Bama beat UT in the champ. game, they just can't get right. I know that has something to do with it but don't believe it is a main factor.
Just want to get you and the rest of the SEC's opinion.

Also, congrats to everyone else in the SEC. Schedule doesn't seem to get any easier for anyone.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:52 pm to
all the above


mostly sumlin
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:53 pm to
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Not flaming, trolling or anything else here
well its going to happen regardless
Posted by DMagic
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:54 pm to
They had money to begin with now they have the SEC branding with a good recruiter to boot. Plus their instate rival hates black people and success it seems.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:55 pm to
frick you aTm and your 12th man and stank arse bat shite stadium!!!!1

oh and your gay boy cheerleaders

eta STTDB and your welcome for the SEC brand
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:55 pm to
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frick you aTm and your 12th man and stank arse bat shite stadium!!!!1

oh and your gay boy cheerleaders




This
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:56 pm to
WCA likes this post

You covered most of it
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:56 pm to
The batshit and gays is mostly to credit I think
Posted by KSGamecock
The Woodlands, TX
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:56 pm to
Is Sumlin really that great a coach? It seems like almost all of his success has been predicated on having NFL caliber QBs like Keenum and JFF. He's not always going to have that, in fact most seasons he won't, he's been very lucky. Can he win without one?
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:57 pm to
:kige:
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:57 pm to
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Can he win without one?

will we ever find out?
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:58 pm to
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Is Sumlin really that great a coach? It seems like almost all of his success has been predicated on having NFL caliber QBs like Keenum and JFF. He's not always going to have that, in fact most seasons he won't, he's been very lucky. Can he win without one?




Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
61195 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 4:59 pm to
quote:

Is Sumlin really that great a coach? It seems like almost all of his success has been predicated on having NFL caliber QBs like Keenum and JFF. He's not always going to have that, in fact most seasons he won't, he's been very lucky. Can he win without one?


So far the plan for this problem is to always have an NFL caliber QB.
Posted by Rebellious
Member since Dec 2013
198 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:00 pm to
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Plus their instate rival hates black people and success it seems.


WTF?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71183 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:01 pm to
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NFL caliber QBs
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JFF






Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:02 pm to
Austin has a lot of race issues. Always has.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
146728 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:02 pm to
More so than mettsiah

Slaaaaaaaam
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
21685 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:02 pm to
Nothing to do with UT... that's just been a fun sideshow to watch.

Perfect storm for the Ags right now. Sumlin has an offense that most skill players want to play in. Unexpected (by most writers and other fans) success in the SEC. Some very entertaining games on TV vs Bama, Ole Miss, bowl wins, etc... Truth is the Ags are getting a lot of positive publicity and have been since midway through last season.

All of this has played a role. Moving to the SEC has been the driver but the success of the first year was key.

Had Ags come in and gone 6-5 in first year... we definitely would not be where we are today.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
24635 posts
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:03 pm to
Kyle Allen is definitely an NFL caliber QB - and he will be developed just fine. Not to mention he may not even win the job over Kenny Hill.

So no, Sumlin doesn't have to worry about not having an NFL caliber QB. As for recruiting... A&M could simply dominate the state of Texas in 2015 as hasn't been seen in years.
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