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re: OT: SB Coke Commercial
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:26 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:26 am to DawgsLife
You realize that people have spoke non-English languages since the birth of this country? If immigrants want to study here, then yes they should obviously learn English. But there are plenty of people who live and work here without knowing a word of English, and life goes on just fine.
The ad was simply celebrating the diversity of this country. And conservatives love to claim that people migrate from all over the world to live here due to our "freedom ," but yet they get pissed because they speak a different language.
The ad was simply celebrating the diversity of this country. And conservatives love to claim that people migrate from all over the world to live here due to our "freedom ," but yet they get pissed because they speak a different language.
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:47 am to thomass
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You realize that people have spoke non-English languages since the birth of this country?
That is completely true, but what is also completely true is that immigrants 100 years ago were more likely to learn English than immigrants today. I don't give a damn about the commercial, but immigrants are handicapping themselves by not learning English today. It's up to them, and I don't have strong feelings on their decision, but it does no good to deny the fact that they are hurting their future chances by not learning English.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:13 am to thomass
I fully expect people to come to the US from other countries and potentially not be able to speak the language. But, I expect them to learn it over time if they want to settle here.
Everything we do here is in English. We sometimes add signs and literature in Spanish (I'm not 100% on board with this) due to the large portion of Spanish-speaking people here. But, we don't have everything in French, German, Italian, Arabic, Kirundi, Russian, Hindi, and so on. In fact, most countries around the world have English as a 2nd language if not a 1st language. It's the language of business (for now), so it's pretty common for people to learn it before even coming to the US.
I'm in favor of immigrants coming to this country (legally). I'm in favor of them celebrating their heritage. I'm in favor of them remembering where they came from and making it a part of their lives. But what I'm not in favor of is not assimilating into the culture, not learning the native language, not obeying the laws, and not making an effort to being a true part of this country by paying their taxes, voting, and investing in American business through commerce.
Everything we do here is in English. We sometimes add signs and literature in Spanish (I'm not 100% on board with this) due to the large portion of Spanish-speaking people here. But, we don't have everything in French, German, Italian, Arabic, Kirundi, Russian, Hindi, and so on. In fact, most countries around the world have English as a 2nd language if not a 1st language. It's the language of business (for now), so it's pretty common for people to learn it before even coming to the US.
I'm in favor of immigrants coming to this country (legally). I'm in favor of them celebrating their heritage. I'm in favor of them remembering where they came from and making it a part of their lives. But what I'm not in favor of is not assimilating into the culture, not learning the native language, not obeying the laws, and not making an effort to being a true part of this country by paying their taxes, voting, and investing in American business through commerce.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:24 am to thomass
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You realize that people have spoke non-English languages since the birth of this country? If immigrants want to study here, then yes they should obviously learn English. But there are plenty of people who live and work here without knowing a word of English, and life goes on just fine.
...and if they want to assimilate into the society, they learn to speak English.
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The ad was simply celebrating the diversity of this country. And conservatives love to claim that people migrate from all over the world to live here due to our "freedom ," but yet they get pissed because they speak a different language.
This country was diverse in the 17 and 1800s You had people moving from just about every European country...not to mention the salves from Africa ... Learning English and assimilating was a point of pride as much as retaining some of their old country customs.
I think this commercial would have shown true diversity of Americans if all these diverse people showed their commonality by singing the song in English... Even if it was accented.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 9:30 am to thomass
United we stand and divided we fall Brothers and Sisters!
We live in an era where this principle is being tested by selfish wills of people who want to create change. What's being lost is the fact that this country guarantees safety for ALL people to live their lives how they want to live without the burden of a government forcing the ideals of one (or a few) on the people (the masses).
This country made that happen because "We the people" were one in purpose, but that is being tested on so many levels. Our freedom manifests itself by having strong moral principles and values upon which a collective people believe in together. The government is a tool "We the people" use to defend those rights and privileges. The government and businesses and all other activities this country sees fit to use in an effort to bring to fruition our hope for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness flows smoothly and freely when we all understand eachother. This understanding comes best when through communication that is understood and conveyed by all in one single form of language.
Although we are not all Christian, I'll use the story in the Bible about the "Tower of Babel" in making my point. Shortened version...
I say this brothers and sisters because our country is slowly being divided by the idea that all the ideals and laws that have made this country so great would be better if all cultures were represented in our national way of life. If and when this happens our fall will quickly hasten.
So live your life but beware of pride. There is a reason immigrants are coming to this country and having diversity is a value even God recognized, but that doesn't mean their way of life brought them TOTAL happiness hence thier exodus from their own country.
We live in an era where this principle is being tested by selfish wills of people who want to create change. What's being lost is the fact that this country guarantees safety for ALL people to live their lives how they want to live without the burden of a government forcing the ideals of one (or a few) on the people (the masses).
This country made that happen because "We the people" were one in purpose, but that is being tested on so many levels. Our freedom manifests itself by having strong moral principles and values upon which a collective people believe in together. The government is a tool "We the people" use to defend those rights and privileges. The government and businesses and all other activities this country sees fit to use in an effort to bring to fruition our hope for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness flows smoothly and freely when we all understand eachother. This understanding comes best when through communication that is understood and conveyed by all in one single form of language.
Although we are not all Christian, I'll use the story in the Bible about the "Tower of Babel" in making my point. Shortened version...
quote:shortstoriesshort.com
When the world was new, everyone spoke the same language. One day, in the city of Babel, the people decided to build a tower so high it would take them up to Heaven. God thought: “Hmmm. The people think they can do anything.”
So God taught the people a lesson. He gave them many different languages. Then they couldn’t work together and finish the tower. And that is why people speak many different languages today.
I say this brothers and sisters because our country is slowly being divided by the idea that all the ideals and laws that have made this country so great would be better if all cultures were represented in our national way of life. If and when this happens our fall will quickly hasten.
So live your life but beware of pride. There is a reason immigrants are coming to this country and having diversity is a value even God recognized, but that doesn't mean their way of life brought them TOTAL happiness hence thier exodus from their own country.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 9:40 am
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