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ACL's Tearing at Record Rate in NFL
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 6:56 pm
It's not just us, ladies and gents. Saw the thread on the MSB and read the Grantland article. Really interesting in to the insight of how they're torn and the recovery from them. This passage was intriguing to me as it relates to our injuries.
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Where the number of tears seems to hit epidemic proportions is in the NFL. Professional football doesn't release ACL figures, either, but Kevin Seifert of ESPN.com discovered that as of October 23, 30 players had been placed on injured reserve because of ACL tears — topping the 25 for all of 2011 and edging close to the 32 for all of 2012.
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Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:01 pm to gatorhata9
It was at 41 last count on sportscenter
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:02 pm to bigdawg7780
This is what happens when you all but ban above the waist contact. No surprise.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:04 pm to dhuck20
NFL S&C coaching is to blame..... 
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:07 pm to gatorhata9
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In short, LeBron's legs are bowed, and athletes who bow their legs generally don't tear their ACLs.
interdasting. maybe we should start recruiting bow-legged high schoolers.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:10 pm to gatorhata9
Richt pissed off the NFL Gods too 
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:10 pm to dhuck20
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This is what happens when you all but ban above the waist contact. No surprise.
Yep. Great thinking NFL/NCAA...let's avoid lawsuits by enforcing penalties that ensure career-ending injuries. That sure will solve the problem.
In fifteen years we will have no more kickoffs, no more punts (teams will have the option of spotting the ball 40 yards downfield/half the distance or going for it), the play will be blown dead as soon as a defender touches the QB inside the tackle box, and passes over the middle (i.e., between the tackles and in front of the safeties) will be illegal. And this is all in addition to the targeting BS we're currently experiencing.
And that, my friends, will be the death of my favorite sport.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:11 pm to K9
NOt sure that is right as women are much more likely to tear ACLs. Conventional wisdom is that it is due to the biomechanics of wider hips. Bow-legged people should also have much greater strain on the lateral collaterals I would imagine.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:21 pm to SoGaFan
Bow legged or not, you take a hit like Gronkowski or Keith Marshall and your knee is shot.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 7:23 pm to SoGaFan
i wasn't being serious, but thanks for dropping that knowledge.....my own personal theory is related to the popularity of intense workout regiments/protein supplements/etc with athletes. I think today's athletes are adding too much weight/muscle mass and their bodies/ligaments can't keep up. A 155 pound guy starts working out/taking protein or whatever and gets up to 180. That guy still has ligaments for 155 pound person. Back in the day people still worked out and transformed their bodies, but I bet it as at slower pace than today's athletes.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:41 pm to tylerdurden24
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Bow legged or not, you take a hit like Gronkowski or Keith Marshall and your knee is shot.
I want the mouth breathers who were demanding that we clean house in regards to S&C, because of injuries, to show themselves and then eat a nice fat slice of shite pie.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 8:43 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
Well I want a new strength coach, but mostly bc Joe T II isn't qualified and John Thomas is old as shite. Nothing to do with injuries though.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:10 pm to Sanford&MunSon
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mostly bc Joe T II isn't qualified and John Thomas is old as shite. Nothing to do with injuries though.
And that is absolutely fine, I am speaking of the assholes who were jumping up and down because of injuries that "should" have been prevented.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:35 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
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quote: Bow legged or not, you take a hit like Gronkowski or Keith Marshall and your knee is shot. I want the mouth breathers who were demanding that we clean house in regards to S&C, because of injuries, to show themselves and then eat a nice fat slice of shite pie.
I still blame most of our injuries on poor S&C habits. Especially when you have a guy with knowledge of an average "gym rat" running the program. Just because you're part of the UGA Family, doesn't mean you get a fricken job! Strong ligaments don't tear from jumping up and down. It's just dumb to think that's just bad luck !
This post was edited on 12/10/13 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:42 pm to Sanford&MunSon
Also, our HS team has had 1 ACL legitimately tear in 2 years. Before we implemented a new S&C program, we had an average of 4 per season. It's a proven fact that simple exercises can help prevent these injuries and I'm not talking about the KM type hits. Just the silly ones, meaning non or little contact.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 9:44 pm to Padawgjr
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Strong ligaments don't tear from jumping up and down.
You do realize MM had been hurt for about 2 weeks and practicing on a limited basis with swelling in his knee before it finally gave out? If anything the knee it was a ticking time bomb
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August 19: Added to the injury list on Monday was starting receiver Malcolm Mitchell, listed with swelling to his right knee.
Posted on 12/10/13 at 11:34 pm to Padawgjr
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Also, our HS team has had 1 ACL legitimately tear in 2 years. Before we implemented a new S&C program, we had an average of 4 per season. It's a proven fact that simple exercises can help prevent these injuries and I'm not talking about the KM type hits. Just the silly ones, meaning non or little contact.
yeah im sure your HS's S&C conditioning program is way more advanced than major college programs and NFL teams.
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Posted on 12/11/13 at 12:16 am to Cherokee Chinstrap
The funny thing about your "proof" is how the coaches and trainers educate our athletes about the early stages of an injury. A knee sprain will lead to a tear if not treated. There are ways of testing the integrity of the knee before workouts, practice and games. It takes knowledge on the players to understand that they have a something not quite right with their body. As coaches, it is our responsibility to teach the kids to understand that something isn't right and talk with the trainer. The trainer will pass it up if needed. This is something that is tested, starting in the weight room, and then on to the field. Educating them, helps them to understand the difference between an ACL tear and the precursors to an SCL tear. This falls on the coaching and medicinal education of young athletes. Teaching kids about anatomy is something we have done for thousands of years. To treat the body, you must know the body and that is an instinct. How do you know when you need to go to the doctor? You know the symptoms. This is another way, besides excercise, that we are helping to prevent injuries. There's more than one way to skin a cow and you need to open your mind a little on the subject. This is something that the big programs and even smaller programs, understand. Look at the statistics from around the country's programs ad you will find that injuries are more concentrated in certain programs than others. This is a proven fact. Your proven fact is based on the league as a whole and so is not fact. Look at the numbers from the organizations themselves and get back to me on this.
Posted on 12/11/13 at 1:05 am to K9
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yeah im sure your HS's S&C conditioning program is way more advanced than major college programs and NFL teams.
Sshhh..... Don't tell McGarity or we won't get better coaches. This gives you a little insight to how ACL injuries effect different organizations, instead of the league as a whole. LINK
This post was edited on 12/11/13 at 3:20 am
Posted on 12/11/13 at 6:30 am to Padawgjr
I understand the body perfectly and I'm not discounting how important quality training is to the prevention of injury. I've already said that we need a new strength coach, but there are just too many variables to blame all of our injuries soley on poor training. You have no empirical evidence to suppport that.
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