re: Should Arkansas be kicking themselves for not hiring G.Malzahn?

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But at the time it was broader than that. I'm not sure why you are wanting to deny that.

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because i don't think it's true at all. the bulk of people wanted nutt gone no doubt about it, i don't recall one person outwardly campaigning/begging for gus at that time. there may have been but it was definitely not some large contingent of folks. gus had one year as a college oc at that point- seriously do you think many people wanted him for head coach?

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seriously do you think many people wanted him for head coach?

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What? I don't even know what you are talking about now.

That wasn't about the HC gig and I don't think HC was ever a thought for Malzahn or Arkansas at the time. Nutt ran Malzahn off after one year due to their differences of opinion regarding the offense and possibly Nutt getting worried about the growing support for Malzahn. Malzahn's supporters in NWA then made life hell for Nutt and ran him off a year later. At least that is how I remember it.

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What's the story on Malzahn with the Pigs?

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frick Gus. That's what up.

It seriously all started with him taking the Shiloh job and this rise to power out of Springdale First Baptist into some behemoth mega church Armani Ronnie Joel Osteen wannabe.

It mixes a lot of deep seated factors and clashing GOBN with the new economy, new media,and the outside influences of the Ivy League MBA's and their East Coast/West Coast ideas in changing NWA.

Alot of it is pure jealousy and the shitty way Gus and Shiloh conducted themselves in all walks of life. You want to do more business, join First Baptist and get your kid into Shiloh. You have a promising athlete in Jr. High, well here's a partial tuition waiver to Shiloh, oh and it wouldn't be a good idea to start a drywall business? Brother Joe BOb is building 60 new duplexes and needs a sub.

So add in all of this change is what has been traditionally a disenfranchised part of the country and the preacher is wearing $2000 suits on TV and all of this money rolling in is being used to syphon kids and families out of the small towns they grew up in, the division between the "ins and outs" in Arkansas got further apart and some of it deservedly so because Gus is a slimeball POS, but some also no deservedly he became a scapegoat of sorts.

Now people didn't like his smarmy arse at Shiloh, when he moved on to Springdale at pushed the talent to the public school it wasn't such a big deal because they were Springdale kids to begin with, but when you involve our beloved Razorbacks and involve the entire damn state with your High School drama queen horseshite, it becomes something of a monster that can never be reigned in.

It would be equally awesome to have Gus at Arkansas and equally destructive. Gus is now a turncoat and a blasphemer for using the Bible to shield his antics. I'm atheist so I don't give a shite, but I do feel that people that use religion as either a crutch or a diversion are the worst kind of people on the planet.

The fracture is so deep over Gus in Arkansas he couldn't have been chosen. Auburn was obviously the right choice for him given their penchant for working outside of the rules system and willingness to grasp any advantage possible. The guy's a maniac, Arkansas just isn't in the cards for him and it's a shame considering how many great football coaches come from here but we seem to never be able to capitalize on their talents.

I get it. It isn't uncommon for that stuff to be involved, I'm just surprised at the uniformity across many of our arky posters that Gus is a terrible human being.

That said, Arky seems like a much more tight knit state, I think, than Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc. (NWA at least).

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The fracture is so deep over Gus in Arkansas he couldn't have been chosen. Auburn was obviously the right choice for him given their penchant for working outside of the rules system and willingness to grasp any advantage possible. The guy's a maniac, Arkansas just isn't in the cards for him and it's a shame considering how many great football coaches come from here but we seem to never be able to capitalize on their talents.

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This is what I'm talking about.

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I get it. It isn't uncommon for that stuff to be involved, I'm just surprised at the uniformity across many of our arky posters that Gus is a terrible human being.

That said, Arky seems like a much more tight knit state, I think, than Georgia, Alabama, Florida, etc. (NWA at least).

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That's because we don't have a pro team or another BCS program in state.

There's actually something to be said for that when it comes to both hiring coaches and recruiting.

Smaller state too. Plus, a lot of you guys seem pretty concentrated in NWA.

i have a few things to do before i leave work so this is it for me--- it's pretty much still springdale vs the rest of the state even reading ctothev. i'm obviously not going to change your opinion but gus' legions are not nearly as widespread as i think you think they are. have a good one.

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Still have never figured out though why the program is so horrible in bowl games in its history.

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I did some research into this. What I've found is typically Arkansas goes to a bowl against a stronger team. There also seems to a ridiculous party attitude when they get anywhere outside of the state. During the Broyles area we basically played regional games rarely traveling more than 350 miles. So the bowl actually was a big deal and the players had lots of fun, there usually were suspensions.

The biggest reasoning is still that in most bowls Arkansas came in the underdog and with the added time to prepare or party, other teams seemed to prepare better and their strengths won them the game.