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What are the chances Muschamp gets fired after the season?

Posted on 11/5/13 at 1:07 pm
Posted by TT9
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Posted by SpartyGator
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 1:12 pm to
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Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 1:48 pm to
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Yep, but I think he will have to fire Pease at the end of the season to avoid the ax next season (assuming Pease's offense would cost UF games in 2014)
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 3:47 pm to
Zero percent....I know I emailed Foley with my support of Boom. Foley is secure and not afraid to do the right thing even when the usual crowd of village idiots come out at dark with torches and pitchforks wanting someone fire and revenge for a loss...gotta have their pound of flesh..lol

Now...if next year produces even a 7-5 record , then all bets are off unless there are compelling reasons....but I think we will be stronger than people realize...Boom is finally getting his players on the team and needs to add frosh who can play soon and be ready by midseason to take more snaps.

As for Pease...ask yourself THIS question: with the injuries and qb Murphy starting...WHAT OC could have done much better with this team? Play calling is over rated if execution is poor and that execution is because of lack of talent/depth or both? Be honest and ask yourself WHO on our offensive roster is All SEC material? I rest my case and will let Foley and Muschamp decide..but it would not surprise me if Pease is back.
Posted by The Nino
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 5:22 pm to
UF has top5 recruiting classes almost every year. You can't tell me there isn't SEC caliber talent on O.

I understand the injury angle and how that can affect the production on offense. But that doesn't excuse poor technique, misreads, incorrect positioning, bad blocks, etc. Even if UF doesn't have talent on offense, they should be able to do the basics. That goes back to coaching, which Pease is responsible for. And the play calling...all on Pease.

Even if you completely disregard this year, look at last year's stats. They were mediocre at best. 78th in the nation scoring, 104th in total offense. My point is Florida is at worst a top10 destination for coaches (location, facilities, money, recruits). It really shouldn't be a problem for the AD/Muschamp to find someone better than Pease.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 7:21 pm to
You disregard my question: WHO on our offense is All SEC material? You and I both know there really isn't one. Come on. So...throwing stats out don't mean squat...yes it means we are mediocre...like any other team in the SEC that doesn't have All SEC player number one on offense.

Grasp that Nino and explain to me how? Muschamp has been recruiting like a madman and he did focus on defense his first signed class...why? If you ask knowledgable football folks they will tell you to start with defense first and that ploy didn't do too badly since we went to a BCS bowl in part because of that...Morrison, Fowler and Bullard provided immediate help and we need more horses on offense to go with what we are getting and got last year.

Oh...before it get bandied about...having a mediocre record does not imply recruiting failures by the way...perfect example? (since I have followed recruiting for years) is UGA just a few years ago after their loss to UCF dropped them to 6-7 for the year...they sold immediate playing time reaped solid results and saved Richts skin and we also will sell p/t.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 8:51 pm to
I actually think UF has to be bowl eligible for Muschamp to keep his job. He has to beat Vandy or pull the upset against USCe or FSU.


Let this sink in, since 79 every season has been above .500! Muschamp will probably have two season that were the closest to breaking that streak.

All that being said, I think Muschamp has UF on the right path as a program if he can find the right Offensive staff.

If not I trust in Foley to bring in the right HC.
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:35 pm to
I'm beginning to think that what Mike Shula was to Bama, Muschamp is to Florida. The next guy will get it right, i think. It can't be just a homerun hire, it has to be a grand slam hire.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:24 am to
It's all about timing. We need Mike Chip Kelly or Mike Tomlin to get fired stat to have a similar hire. Even then, neither of those have any SEC experience.

Bama was plain lucky that Saban was available.

Side note: After living in Birmingham for 3 years, I believe that Gumps would sacrifice goats, allow Saban to sleep with their wives and/or :name pretty much anything here: to keep Saban around. Those folks are crazy.
Posted by austingator
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:32 am to
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Texas and USC are looking, and Foley isn't idiotic enough to get in the middle of it this year.

And Will deserves another chance to get it right. Waaaay too many injuries. Fire Pease, and make the correct OC hire, and we will be in good shape.
Posted by gatordmb89
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:05 am to
Only way he isn't back is if UF doesn't win another game.

Pease is out, though. Possibly up to 4 offensive assistants as well.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:28 am to
Muschamp will decide if Pease is back and wont be forced to fire him...and by that I mean Foley's input wont be the decision..Boom would probably resign rather than fire Pease IF he feels that Pease is the right guy..he isn't the kind of guy to back down if he feels he is right.

No one has answered my question regarding the talent on the offense and that's because you cant.

Its much easier to blame Ls on coaches. Just remember that during the Univ of NJ @ Coral Gables game Driskel threw for just under 300 yds and threw long and deep...we piled up yds even though Matt Jones was out...Taylor wasn't ready. Offense wasn't the problem...turnovers were.

No likes the results of late...its been plain ugly
and hard to watch...but I will ask again...with our talent and complete gutting on offense from injuries...WHO would have guided us to more Ws? Please answer that riddle and provide insight...not just a name.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:43 am to
It's more than play calling. Every unit on the O side of the ball is pretty bad except for WR and who knows really because we don't have a QB that can get the ball to them. They may be bad too. Where is the development?

The stubborness is more of a problem for me. 3 years of doing the same thing and batting .333. Near the bottom of the NCAA in offense. No TE worth a crap. Little depth at WR. The OL is just plain abysmal even though we were told it was a strength.

I'm at a loss but I do believe Pease, Davis and maybe White should go.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:43 am to
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Only way he isn't back is if UF doesn't win another game.

Pease is out, though. Possibly up to 4 offensive assistants as well.


1. Davis OL
2. Lewis TE
3. White ??
4. ??

Surely not Joker, unless he gets an OC job somewhere else. I could see White move to TEs if RBs are not up to UF quality. Pease is QBs.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:31 am to
This is Peases second year at UF...so he hasn't had three years to develop anyone. AGAIN..I pose the question which no one can answer: with our complete lack of offensive talent overall (except for a few frosh who may turn out to be All SEC material) WHO could have done anything with this squad? Im serious.

Develop? Develop the second string QB? He got reps all along...but Murphy is not close to being a QB starter at a SEC school...except maybe at Vandy or UK? The OC isn't to blame for this and he has gotten us a solid commit from a highly rated qb and we did get one of the nations best WR haul recruited last year.

If you look at our roister for next year we are loaded across the board with the main concern of depth at OL. We are in on WRs who can provide depth and Fulwood & Robinson will get better as the speed of the game becomes second nature. Dunbar will be back but we lose Patton. Bailey is going to be ready I hope...Pittman, Andrades plus r/s frosh Marqui Hawkins & Chris Thompson.

At OL we have Garcia, Green, Humphries, T. Brown, Moore if healed, Silberman as possible starters and backups mostly r/s frosh such as Cameron Dillard, Octavious Jackson, Rod Johnson plus Trip Thurman? Quintese Williams.

TE: we have two of the five highest rated TEs out of high school in Colin Thompson and Kent Taylor who are still young...both should be r/s sophs

RB: loaded and just need a few more for depth.

I see a 2014 squad that will kick azz on offense compared to what we have seen. Grier will r/s unless the unthinkable happens. It takes time to develop and look at Patton...he did nothing much his first two yrs and then busted out. Our only worry is injuries at OL. I think JUCOs will get intense recruiting effort from us.

Our defense will be loaded and when you see the ALL SEC potential...its outstanding: Hargreaves, Fowler, Powell, Purifoy (he should stay) the talent overall is excellent, Roberson back, Gorman, Riggs, Poole, + Morrison, Ball, Jeremi Powell, Bullard, Orr, Cox, Bostwick, Anzalone, DT Brantley, Cummings, Sheritt, McMillian, Nick Washington, Riles, Ivie, Rolin, Neal etc etc We will look at JUCO ranks to probably find at least 1 DL.

If anyone told you before the season that we would lose Driskel and Easley and gave you a list of schollys that aren't playing...I think a lot of you would have said we'd be 6-6.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 11:52 am to
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This is Peases second year at UF...so he hasn't had three years to develop anyone. AGAIN..I pose the question which no one can answer: with our complete lack of offensive talent overall (except for a few frosh who may turn out to be All SEC material) WHO could have done anything with this squad? Im serious.


Pease's track record sucks. This is par for the course. There is a Baylor message board thread from 2005 with the exact same issues that UF is having right now.

Kellen Moore should get half of Pease's paycheck.
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:28 pm to
That explains everything...thanks.
Posted by LuciusSulla
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:33 pm to
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Texas and USC are looking, and Foley isn't idiotic enough to get in the middle of it this year.


I think this is a bigger deal than a lot of the pitchfork crowd realizes.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:36 pm to
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That explains everything...thanks.


Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
If Muschamp gets the axe, Foley will have already lined up a replacement.
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