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One excuse that you can not stand for a MSU fan to make

Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:36 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:36 pm
Here is mine

"look at the facts man. We pay less than anybody for coaches"

I hate that. Cry me a friggin river. It's BS. OSU's OC was making 52g a year prior to being hired by them. Are you trying to tell me we can't find assistant coaches at that level and pay them a little more than they are making? That guy could have been hired for 85gs and the opportunity to advance.

Stop with the pity party. "oh we are MSU we can't because.... " We can, and we should demand better. There are no excuses. NONE!

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:39 pm to
We all blame you
Posted by MadDoggyStyle
Member since Feb 2012
3857 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:48 pm to
I have never heard one person make this comment.
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6990 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

One excuse that you can not stand for a MSU fan to make


"All our players are hurt because we practice too hard."
This post was edited on 9/16/13 at 2:51 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 2:53 pm to
I have seen comparison charts made to prove the point.

Posted by Allyn McKeen
Key West, FL
Member since Jun 2012
4649 posts
Posted on 9/16/13 at 3:04 pm to
Other excuses NOT allowed!

To those that said, "Well, the sun was in Jameon's eyes." BS. It was a night game.

To those complaining about the 3 man defensive line. All of the D line were in a mini-meeting on the sidelines. Someone said that we keep this up, and we are going bowling! Well, most of the D-Line remembered how much fun it was to go to the bowling alley, and they left the field to go get dressed. Collins only had 3 linemen available. The prevent D was his only option! BS. Collins could have sent a manager to get those guys back to the sidelines.

You cannot defend a QB that throws completions to himself. BS. They never ran that play again, now did they? We must have defended it better. Poor game prep with an OK mid-game adjustment.





Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:13 am to
Like everything else you say, this is taken totally out of context and without any semblance of reality.

I haven't "made excuses" for our assistant coaches because of money one single time ever. I've done a helluva lot of driving the boat on bitching about the coordinator money though -- and drawn correlations to why the good ones get away from MSU as soon as they can and the ones that stay, we don't want.
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 12:28 am to
I don't recall mentioning you. However, if you are one of those that thinks we don't pay enough to be able to get better coaches, then you are now who I am referring to.

Posted by reggierayreb
Member since Nov 2012
18946 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 6:53 pm to
TSUN payin all the god damn 5 stars and givin em booze, and cocaine and whores and theyre 3-0 but it's all smoke and mirrors and ya feel like you're shoulder deep in black bear shite cause Ole Miss means slave master and Robert Nkemdashian robbed a bar and his brother fought an entire fraternity because Ole Miss football players dont work hard and smoke weed and aint Balis made and Oxford frickin sucks and I hate it.
Posted by bullpup01
Utopia
Member since Jan 2013
566 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 8:54 pm to
You a lie. They are Balis made.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

However, if you are one of those that thinks we don't pay enough to be able to get better coaches, then you are now who I am referring to.


We don't pay enough to keep good coordinators. That much is basically an indisputable fact. At best, we are a stepping stone job for hotshot Sun Belt coordinators. This sucks when we pay enough to a head coach to basically be a destination job now...but we can't come up with the extra $250k to pay coordinators(and excellent assistants) competitively.

So every single year, we lose our best and brightest -- and are left scrambling trying to hold the recruiting class together.
This post was edited on 9/17/13 at 9:59 pm
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 9/17/13 at 10:37 pm to
That I can agree with to a degree. But there is a way to get past that.
Posted by Slippery Slope
Hail Satan
Member since Nov 2010
20346 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 9:09 am to
quote:

One excuse that you can not stand for a MSU fan to make


quote:

"I agree with Darkhorse."


Off with his head.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 10:41 am to
quote:

But there is a way to get past that.


Yeah -- Hire Hud and bring Steve Campbell back to Starkville as OC.

Hud is tight enough with the people who write the big checks that I feel confident he can get whatever he wants monetarily for assistant coaches...
Posted by darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts
Posted on 9/18/13 at 12:00 pm to
I meant with mullen. We can do it. Im not against Hud at all either.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61491 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 9:01 am to
It's been awhile now and I can't remember exactly but was Campbell involved with some of the stink that landed us on probation under Sherrill? Or was it the coach who went on to Byram or somewhere like that?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 9:06 am to
I think darkhorse is slowly driving me insane.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 10:46 am to
quote:

It's been awhile now and I can't remember exactly but was Campbell involved with some of the stink that landed us on probation under Sherrill? Or was it the coach who went on to Byram or somewhere like that?


Campbell was only here in 03 -- so I doubt it... They were already deep in the investigation before he showed up.

Steve Campbell Wiki
Steve Campbell Bio
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61491 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 1:12 pm to
yeah then it was definitely somebody else.
Posted by stoms
Coastal
Member since May 2012
1729 posts
Posted on 9/19/13 at 1:17 pm to
Glen Davis

Allegedly paid for a Ed center class for a FB from Brandon (Weeks) who went on to play at USM and do nothing in his career
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