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re: Last years Georgia/Bama SECCG Refresh
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:33 pm to TenTex
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:33 pm to TenTex
Since I can just copy and paste what I posted a few days ago after rewatching this game for the first time, I'm gonna do that and then never visit this thread again:
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Just rewatched for the first time (miserably slow day at work) and recalled this thread. A couple observations:
Didn't really realize at the time how in command of the game we could have been. After the Ogletree return for a TD the score could have easily been 31-7. We missed a field goal in the 1st half and, then, of course, the Murray interception that was badly underthrown being intended for Conley who was wide open and could have walked in for a TD.
I realize McCarron threw an ugly pick as well, but Cooper's back shoulder route was extremely covered and never would have been a completion regardless. Also, Saban's clock management at the end of the 1st half was miserable, but that doesn't guarantee anymore than the 3 points that Bama got. Without the piss poor clock management, we don't let McCarron waltz down the field to get the close to a TD anyway. Bama also managed to fall on a fumble at their own 20, which was quite fortunate.
Our run D was TURRIBLE. Bama's wasn't anything stellar, but better than ours. Our pass rush was better than theirs. I don't think anybody on Bama's front 7 is REALLY intimidating anybody in the pass rush.
Also, anybody know how many passes McCarron completed that he threw more than 3 yards downfield? 2.
One was severely underthrown and Cooper went up over Rambo and snagged it. The other was the big TD pass to Cooper. Don't get me wrong, Cooper was open, but both him and our CB Swann had basically began loafing and giving up on the play because neither expected McCarron to throw it to that route.
That doesn't bode well for Bama's offense this year. I had been giving McCarron the benefit of the doubt, but losing 3 elite college OL, a good blocking TE, and his bowling ball of a RB is going to make him look average in a hurry. I realize that Yeldon is a stud, but he also came out with fresh legs and he'll also need a yin to his yang to step up behind him this year. Unless the 3 OL and TE are replaced (and Bama's 2nd TE was nothing special from what I saw unless he was blocking as part of a double team -- hell, I'm special when I'm blocking as part of a double team with Fluker as my partner), then I think Bama is in for a longer year on offense against above average Ds than most realize. Any injury to Cooper or Yeldon could be deadly.
I was excited to see that more younger guys played well on D for us than I remember. Both of our expected starting ILBs forced a fumble (Ramik Wilson and Amarlo Herrera). Swann got toasted by Cooper once and had one PI, but played really well other than that. Garrison Smith was by far our best DL and Ray Drew played adequately when he received PT. Jordan Jenkins also showed some flashes in a game that only saw the opposing QB complete 2 passes for more than 3 yards down field.
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Just rewatched for the first time (miserably slow day at work) and recalled this thread. A couple observations:
Didn't really realize at the time how in command of the game we could have been. After the Ogletree return for a TD the score could have easily been 31-7. We missed a field goal in the 1st half and, then, of course, the Murray interception that was badly underthrown being intended for Conley who was wide open and could have walked in for a TD.
I realize McCarron threw an ugly pick as well, but Cooper's back shoulder route was extremely covered and never would have been a completion regardless. Also, Saban's clock management at the end of the 1st half was miserable, but that doesn't guarantee anymore than the 3 points that Bama got. Without the piss poor clock management, we don't let McCarron waltz down the field to get the close to a TD anyway. Bama also managed to fall on a fumble at their own 20, which was quite fortunate.
Our run D was TURRIBLE. Bama's wasn't anything stellar, but better than ours. Our pass rush was better than theirs. I don't think anybody on Bama's front 7 is REALLY intimidating anybody in the pass rush.
Also, anybody know how many passes McCarron completed that he threw more than 3 yards downfield? 2.
One was severely underthrown and Cooper went up over Rambo and snagged it. The other was the big TD pass to Cooper. Don't get me wrong, Cooper was open, but both him and our CB Swann had basically began loafing and giving up on the play because neither expected McCarron to throw it to that route.
That doesn't bode well for Bama's offense this year. I had been giving McCarron the benefit of the doubt, but losing 3 elite college OL, a good blocking TE, and his bowling ball of a RB is going to make him look average in a hurry. I realize that Yeldon is a stud, but he also came out with fresh legs and he'll also need a yin to his yang to step up behind him this year. Unless the 3 OL and TE are replaced (and Bama's 2nd TE was nothing special from what I saw unless he was blocking as part of a double team -- hell, I'm special when I'm blocking as part of a double team with Fluker as my partner), then I think Bama is in for a longer year on offense against above average Ds than most realize. Any injury to Cooper or Yeldon could be deadly.
I was excited to see that more younger guys played well on D for us than I remember. Both of our expected starting ILBs forced a fumble (Ramik Wilson and Amarlo Herrera). Swann got toasted by Cooper once and had one PI, but played really well other than that. Garrison Smith was by far our best DL and Ray Drew played adequately when he received PT. Jordan Jenkins also showed some flashes in a game that only saw the opposing QB complete 2 passes for more than 3 yards down field.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:38 pm to MenloDawg
Thanks for the refresher! It was more one sided than I could remember. Was it considered a choke by Georgia or a very good Bama team having their way? Or did 4 quarter conditioning push Bama past Georgia?
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 8/2/13 at 2:43 pm to MenloDawg
There are no words for the shite you just posted.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 3:33 pm to MenloDawg
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That doesn't bode well for Bama's offense this year. I had been giving McCarron the benefit of the doubt, but losing 3 elite college OL, a good blocking TE, and his bowling ball of a RB is going to make him look average in a hurry. I realize that Yeldon is a stud, but he also came out with fresh legs and he'll also need a yin to his yang to step up behind him this year. Unless the 3 OL and TE are replaced (and Bama's 2nd TE was nothing special from what I saw unless he was blocking as part of a double team -- hell, I'm special when I'm blocking as part of a double team with Fluker as my partner), then I think Bama is in for a longer year on offense against above average Ds than most realize. Any injury to Cooper or Yeldon could be deadly.
I agree. Bama's offense should really stuggle this year. McCarron can't make any of the necessary throws besides the dinks and dunks and will probably regress as a senior QB notwithstanding having perhaps the best set of receivers in the conference. Alabama also usually stuggles to find capable offensive linemen and RBs so losing 3 linemen and Lacy will be too much to overcome.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 3:52 pm to MenloDawg
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Also, anybody know how many passes McCarron completed that he threw more than 3 yards downfield? 2.
You serious Clark? The second play of the game was a pass more than 3 yards down field.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 8/2/13 at 4:09 pm to MenloDawg
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That doesn't bode well for Bama's offense this year. I had been giving McCarron the benefit of the doubt, but losing 3 elite college OL, a good blocking TE, and his bowling ball of a RB is going to make him look average in a hurry. I realize that Yeldon is a stud, but he also came out with fresh legs and he'll also need a yin to his yang to step up behind him this year. Unless the 3 OL and TE are replaced (and Bama's 2nd TE was nothing special from what I saw unless he was blocking as part of a double team -- hell, I'm special when I'm blocking as part of a double team with Fluker as my partner), then I think Bama is in for a longer year on offense against above average Ds than most realize. Any injury to Cooper or Yeldon could be deadly.
McCarron had a bad game. One of two bad games all year. Yeldon was a beast in their opener against Michigan and that was without Lacy. People have said the same thing about Bama every year since 2009 - they're losing too much to keep up the same production. Well they've either kept up or improved every year.
Alabama won that game about as much as Georgia gave it away. I can't wait to watch the rematch this year. Go Dawgs!
Posted on 8/2/13 at 4:52 pm to MenloDawg
Holy crap. What did you watch?
Posted on 8/2/13 at 5:12 pm to MenloDawg
Bookmarked the shite you said about our offense this coming season.
Posted on 8/3/13 at 10:26 am to MenloDawg
Georgia actually got their azz kicked and were fortunate to be close, 350 yards rushing to 100 pretty much says it all.
If not for the bogus tipped ball call on the interference ( 10-14 point swing ) we blow this game out.When UGA got the ball for the final drive Bama had 512 yards, UGA 305.In my opinion the Bama interception should had stood, no concrete evidence showed the ball hitting the ground.The celebration , followed by the overturned call , had to have an impact on the defense.
As for what you perceived as a wide open WR on the interception, the free saftey saw the ball was short and WENT TO THE BALL, or took a different route , thus the receiver was only wide open because the ball wad not headed his way.
A team that can't stop the run is not a great team.
If not for the bogus tipped ball call on the interference ( 10-14 point swing ) we blow this game out.When UGA got the ball for the final drive Bama had 512 yards, UGA 305.In my opinion the Bama interception should had stood, no concrete evidence showed the ball hitting the ground.The celebration , followed by the overturned call , had to have an impact on the defense.
As for what you perceived as a wide open WR on the interception, the free saftey saw the ball was short and WENT TO THE BALL, or took a different route , thus the receiver was only wide open because the ball wad not headed his way.
A team that can't stop the run is not a great team.
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