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Mizzou fans.. question about Pinkel
Posted on 7/4/13 at 11:57 am
Posted on 7/4/13 at 11:57 am
In your opinions, what does he need to do this year, for him to retain his job, or stay off a very hot seat?
Last year had some extenuating circumstances with some injuries. Provided the season plays out relatively injury free, how many wins, or what type of progress do yall expect to see for him to keep his job secure?
(ftr, I had predicted 7 wins for yall last yr)
Also, is Henry Josey expected to be back in full form this season?
Last year had some extenuating circumstances with some injuries. Provided the season plays out relatively injury free, how many wins, or what type of progress do yall expect to see for him to keep his job secure?
(ftr, I had predicted 7 wins for yall last yr)
Also, is Henry Josey expected to be back in full form this season?
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 11:59 am
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Posted on 7/4/13 at 12:45 pm to Alahunter
I'm thinking a winning season, 7-6 or better, will keep him around another year. Last season set the bar a lot lower than it would have been otherwise. 7-6 winning all four OOC, two conference games, and a bowl should be okay. I'm guessing the seat will still be pretty warm, but won't be too bad.
I think Alden will keep him around as long as it's possible, and I'd support that as long as we're in bowl games and having winning seasons. Optimal would obviously be competing for division titles every year, but I don't know that will be a requirement until a couple .500ish seasons in a row.
Josey is should be back 100%. Hopefully the line can get him some holes.
I think Alden will keep him around as long as it's possible, and I'd support that as long as we're in bowl games and having winning seasons. Optimal would obviously be competing for division titles every year, but I don't know that will be a requirement until a couple .500ish seasons in a row.
Josey is should be back 100%. Hopefully the line can get him some holes.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:19 pm to Mizzeaux
Mizzou had some bad injury luck last year, especially on the OL. Without those, they win at least 2 more games. I expect them to be much improved this year. They could very easily start at 5-0 next year. If they get some momentum and Franklin gets confident, they could be the surprise team of the league this year.
Aug. 31, 2013 Murray St.
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St.
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M
Aug. 31, 2013 Murray St.
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St.
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:24 pm to Beer Bryant
Tough break with the West Schedule.
I'm seeing 6 wins tops, with a Big Maybe against Vanderbilt. Another Big Maybe to beat Ole Miss. Another Big Maybe to beat Tennessee.
Anything can happen though...
I'm seeing 6 wins tops, with a Big Maybe against Vanderbilt. Another Big Maybe to beat Ole Miss. Another Big Maybe to beat Tennessee.
Anything can happen though...
quote:
Aug. 31, 2013 Murray St. W
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo W
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana W
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St. W
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt W
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky W
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:24 pm to Beer Bryant
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Aug. 31, 2013 Murray St. W
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo W
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana W
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St. W
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt L
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia L
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida L
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina L
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee W
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky L
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss L
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M L
5 winnable games on that schedule. other than that it looks alil iffy
This post was edited on 7/4/13 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:31 pm to gnarkill1529
Aug. 31, 2013 Murray St. W
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo W
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana W
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St. W
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt Tossup
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia L
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida L
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina L
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee Tossup
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky W
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss Tossup
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M L
8 very winnable games, with UF, USCe, and TAMU at home. With Josy back, stay healthy, Franklin gets hot, ya never know. That's what makes CFB so fun.
Sept. 7, 2013 Toledo W
Sept. 21, 2013 at Indiana W
Sept. 28, 2013 Arkansas St. W
Oct. 5, 2013 at Vanderbilt Tossup
Oct. 12, 2013 at Georgia L
Oct. 19, 2013 Florida L
Oct. 26, 2013 South Carolina L
Nov. 2, 2013 Tennessee Tossup
Nov. 9, 2013 at Kentucky W
Nov. 23, 2013 at Ole Miss Tossup
Nov. 30, 2013 Texas A&M L
8 very winnable games, with UF, USCe, and TAMU at home. With Josy back, stay healthy, Franklin gets hot, ya never know. That's what makes CFB so fun.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:34 pm to Alahunter
Missouri will have a continuing theme of failure. Pinkel gets fired after this year. A new coach comes in for 3 years and fails. Rinse and repeat.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:49 pm to Mizzeaux
You have to make the decision before the bowl game. So you have to judge him at 7-5 or 6-6.
Personally I think it should be 8-4 for him to be safe, but Alden will be more lenient.
Personally I think it should be 8-4 for him to be safe, but Alden will be more lenient.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:53 pm to Mizzeaux
You have to make the decision before the bowl game. So you have to judge him at 7-5 or 6-6.
Personally I think it should be 8-4 for him to be safe, but Alden will be more lenient.
Personally I think it should be 8-4 for him to be safe, but Alden will be more lenient.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 1:58 pm to Stripes314
Yeah, I think 6-6 keeps him on, 7-6 after the bowl makes him okay.
I agree it should be more, but I'm not trying to fall into another blow Warren Powers out after a bad season and replace him with Widenhofer-type death spiral.
I agree it should be more, but I'm not trying to fall into another blow Warren Powers out after a bad season and replace him with Widenhofer-type death spiral.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 2:05 pm to Alahunter
Josey is apparently back at 100%. Heard he could have been playing late last season, but wasn't worth burning a year. Be interesting to see how he runs in the SEC.
A bowl game will allow him to keep his job. But if it's only 6 wins it's going to be a lot of ppl calling for his head.
Ppl forget that we outplayed Vandy and FLA last year, even with the excessive injuries. And we beat TN.. I can see how ppl think we're a 6 win team, but if things go right we could be 8 with number 9 coming in a bowl.
A bowl game will allow him to keep his job. But if it's only 6 wins it's going to be a lot of ppl calling for his head.
Ppl forget that we outplayed Vandy and FLA last year, even with the excessive injuries. And we beat TN.. I can see how ppl think we're a 6 win team, but if things go right we could be 8 with number 9 coming in a bowl.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 2:16 pm to Alahunter
Pinknel should NOT be in trouble at all. Moving to a new conference and having the injuries they had explains a lot of last year.
Since 2005:
2006 8-5
2007 12-2
2008 10-4
2009 8-5
2010 10-3
2011 8-5
2012 5-7
Look at the age of this year's starters:
Defense: 5 RS Sr.'s, 1 Sr., 5 RS Jr.'s
Offense: 3 RS Sr.'s, 3 Sr.'s, 3 RS Jr.'s, 1 RS So., 1 So.
Since 2005:
2006 8-5
2007 12-2
2008 10-4
2009 8-5
2010 10-3
2011 8-5
2012 5-7
Look at the age of this year's starters:
Defense: 5 RS Sr.'s, 1 Sr., 5 RS Jr.'s
Offense: 3 RS Sr.'s, 3 Sr.'s, 3 RS Jr.'s, 1 RS So., 1 So.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 2:46 pm to Beer Bryant
This thread gives me deja vu....
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:02 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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Missouri will have a continuing theme of failure. Pinkel gets fired after this year. A new coach comes in for 3 years and fails. Rinse and repeat.
Go away, diddy.
Pinkel's hot seat is partly due to off the field issues as well. He's had a tough couple of years personally, and made some poor decisions that, were he winning, probably wouldn't be as big a deal. But, it's the perception of some boosters that the off field stuff has distracted him. This is evident by his current contract, which only runs through 2017.
Yes, last year was a perfect storm of injuries. I think most teams would struggle if 70% of their OL (from the 2-deep) missed multiple games due to injuries. And we didn't have the depth of talent to absorb that. Assuming we can stay healthier this season, we should be more competitive. I think he needs 7 wins to keep his job. It could be 8, but I'd assume Alden would give him another year with 7 wins.
Bottom line, Pinkel has been at Mizzou for 13 years now. The program was in terrible shape when he came in, and he's built it into something respectable. Alden doesn't want to fire him - he'd prefer to see progress continue, and have Gary retire. But he also knows how much is riding on the football program's success, so he won't let it slip too much.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:09 pm to Alahunter
With no major injury issues? I expect a 7-5 season BARE MINIMUM for him to keep his job. 6-6 and I want (and think) he'll be fired
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:14 pm to semotruman
A lot of people picked AU to do well in 2010, even before they heard about Cam Newton, because their team was so upperclassmen dominated. Mizzou may be in the same boat this year. IMO, they're the most overlooked SEC team heading into the 2013 season.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:19 pm to Beer Bryant
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IMO, they're the most overlooked SEC team heading into the 2013 season.
Shhh!!!! We want to be under the radar!
And KCMO, I think 7 wins is the expectation too.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:20 pm to Beer Bryant
With this schedule, there's no excuse not to get 8 wins. 4 OOC wins, wins against Vandy, UK and UT with one more win out of @UGA, UF, USCe, @OM or A&M. If it were me, that's where I'd set the bar. Reality is I think Alden keeps Pinkel if he's 6-6 or better.
Josey is back but I'm not sure if he's the type of back that thrives in the SEC. We shall see. Hopefully the line stays healthy and Franklin makes a liar out of me.
Josey is back but I'm not sure if he's the type of back that thrives in the SEC. We shall see. Hopefully the line stays healthy and Franklin makes a liar out of me.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:21 pm to Beer Bryant
quote:
A lot of people picked AU to do well in 2010, even before they heard about Cam Newton, because their team was so upperclassmen dominated. Mizzou may be in the same boat this year. IMO, they're the most overlooked SEC team heading into the 2013 season.
There's a reason we're overlooked. We're a 5-7 team until we prove otherwise.
Posted on 7/4/13 at 3:25 pm to KCM0Tiger
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I expect a 7-5 season BARE MINIMUM for him to keep his job. 6-6 and I want (and think) he'll be fired
LOL! Look at his overall record. Given his recent personal problems (which should be behind him now) and the bad luck last year, I think he'll do well this year. Take a look around, I've seen a lot of fans of teams who wish their admin hadn't been so quick to pull the trigger on a good coach, hoping they'd find someone better.
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