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Living up to the hype - how teams finish compared to preseason rankings
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:54 pm
SIAP. Interesting stuff here.
Some guy took a decade's worth of preseason and final polls, cooked the numbers, and came up with a list.
Here you go, most overrated (meaning started high and finished low) to underrated.
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Missouri
Texas A&M
Vandy
Arkansas
Miss State
South Carolina
Ole Miss
Alabama
Some guy took a decade's worth of preseason and final polls, cooked the numbers, and came up with a list.
Here you go, most overrated (meaning started high and finished low) to underrated.
Tennessee
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Auburn
Missouri
Texas A&M
Vandy
Arkansas
Miss State
South Carolina
Ole Miss
Alabama
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:55 pm to JustGetItRight
No Kentucky list is crap
Posted on 3/13/13 at 12:57 pm to JustGetItRight
Some of that could be incredibly skewed though. A team could finish ranked exactly where they started 9 times out of 10, then in one year be preseason ranked 1 and finish unranked and they would be like the 3 most overrated team on this list.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:00 pm to LSUNV
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No Kentucky list is crap
According to the story, Kentucky isn't on the list because they neither started nor finished ranked any of the last 10 years.
It also says as bad as UT looks, Oklahoma was 2x worse, with a final rating of -69.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:09 pm to JustGetItRight
Florida got screwed by the 2010 season.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:12 pm to WG_Dawg
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Some of that could be incredibly skewed though. A team could finish ranked exactly where they started 9 times out of 10, then in one year be preseason ranked 1 and finish unranked and they would be like the 3 most overrated team on this list.
Yeah, the methodology's got flaws but it makes for good off season discussion.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:13 pm to JustGetItRight
yeah, i bet we were near the top (well bottom) before this past season that swung us the other way.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:17 pm to JustGetItRight
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LSU
So basically, LSU has been a disappointment in the season immediately following an appearance in the BCS Championship game (2004, 2008, 2012).
Every other season we were pretty much in line with preseason expectations.
In 2003, we greatly exceeded expecatations.
Not really anything shocking here.
Kudos to Bama for living up to expectations or exceeding them 3 out of the last 4 years.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:22 pm to JustGetItRight
As I suspected - Alabama is vastly underrated by the media. Tired of Alabama's football program having to fight the clear media bias against it and get the respect it deserves.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:24 pm to elposter
quote:Bad enough the SEC screws us and gives us a gauntlet schedule every single year.
Tired of Alabama's football program having to fight the clear media bias against it and get the respect it deserves.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:26 pm to elposter
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As I suspected - Alabama is vastly underrated by the media. Tired of Alabama's football program having to fight the clear media bias against it and get the respect it deserves.
This is a joke, right?
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:27 pm to DynastyDawg
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As I suspected - Alabama is vastly underrated by the media. Tired of Alabama's football program having to fight the clear media bias against it and get the respect it deserves.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:28 pm to JustGetItRight
LSU, Georgia and Florida are the only schools in the preseason rankings for all 10 years.
Print the T shirts.
Also, falling out of the polls should count for more. If you fall out of the polls but still received votes, they should calculate what your ranking would be based on votes received at end of year.
In other words, they are underpenalizing teams who drop out of the top 25 by making their final ranking in essence #26 instead of using the actual votes received (or not received at all) to calculate the true year end ranking. You could do the same with preseason votes received -- where they are underrewarding unranked preseason teams by treating unranked as the equivalent of #26 in the poll.
Print the T shirts.
Also, falling out of the polls should count for more. If you fall out of the polls but still received votes, they should calculate what your ranking would be based on votes received at end of year.
In other words, they are underpenalizing teams who drop out of the top 25 by making their final ranking in essence #26 instead of using the actual votes received (or not received at all) to calculate the true year end ranking. You could do the same with preseason votes received -- where they are underrewarding unranked preseason teams by treating unranked as the equivalent of #26 in the poll.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:29 pm to DynastyDawg
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This is a joke, right?
Did you read the link? It's right there. The media vastly underrates Alabama football.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:31 pm to elposter
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Alabama is vastly underrated by the media. Tired of Alabama's football program having to fight the clear media bias against it and get the respect it deserves.
Since saban started rolling yall have been given a great deal of respect. Using overall delta is a terrible way to look at this. Break it down by year and we see this, going back as far as the author of the blog did:
03- start 23, finish UR. Overrated slightly
04- start UR, finish UR. Ranked correctly
05- start 21, finish 8. Underrated greatly
06- start UR, finish UR. Ranked correctly
07- start UR, finish UR. Ranked correctly.
That's only 1 of the 5 years you were really underrated.
08- start 24, finish 6. Underrated greatly
09- start 6, finish 1. Underrated slightly
10- start 1, finish 10. Overrated
11- start 1, finish 1. Ranked correctly
12- start 2, finish 1. Ranked correctly.
Even when saban hit another gear, you were only really underrated one time, and it was coming off a 7-6 year. 09 you were slightly underrated, but I mean you were ranked 6th preseason so it's not like you weren't getting any love. The rest were appropriate.
Posted on 3/13/13 at 1:33 pm to JustGetItRight
That's one of the most retarded things I've ever read.
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