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Posted on 3/4/13 at 7:37 pm to
Posted by StrickAggie06
College Station
Member since Sep 2011
597 posts
Posted on 3/4/13 at 7:37 pm to
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More relevant than A&M and that was before Saban.


Please. LSU pre-Saban wasn't any more of an elite program than A&M, and A&M was much more successful than LSU for the 15 years prior to his arrival. Keep pretending your Alabama though if it makes yourself feel better.

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I will take our coaches style every single day as it has produced 2 top 5 draft picks, 2 thorpe award winners, 1 Heisman finalist, 4 draft picks in the past 2 years, with a borderline 1st round and 4-5 round guy coming in this year. All of which played in one secondary.


Are all LSU fans incapable of reading comprehension? No one is questioning whether LSU can evaluate DB talent or saying that Paris won't be successful at LSU. Again, show me where Miles or the other LSU coaches said they have Paris rated higher. As LSU has offered both, you don't know who the LSU staff has rated higher.

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Game tape can lie as the elite athletes are going against guys who will never make it past the friday night lights. Camp performance is against the best of the best around the country. Our coaches since Chavis and Frank Wilson have joined the staff have put a large emphasis on camp performance.


There is nothing wrong with performing well in camps. The problem is that camps don't include pads, and when a camp warrior doesn't back it up on the field it raises questions. Paris' junior film doesn't live up to the hype. As I've pointed out multiple times already, he gets burned several times in those highlights and gets bailed out by horribly underthrown balls.

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Every site has Ed Paris ranked significantly higher than DSG. The kids a 3 star on scout (nothing wrong with that at all). DSG may end up being better, but all current signs point to Paris. Surely you can understand why people think you are being a homer.


Of course the sites have Paris rated higher; he started varsity as a freshman and blew up the camp circuit prior to his junior year, whereas DSG was a relative unknown prior to a few months ago with his junior year the first for him to play varsity. In addition, there was another D1 safety prospect on his team in the 2013 class, which I'm sure didn't help his ranking out.

Scout is a joke for having DSG as a 3*, and I'm sure that will be remedied in the near future. If Paris doesn't perform better his senior year, and DSG continues to impress, don't be surprised to see those rankings change significantly. Both should end up as good players, but I'm perfectly fine with taking the guy that has better junior film and whom our coaches have rated higher (and possibly the LSU coaches as well). In the end we won't know for sure for a few years until these kids get on the field at the college level.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32237 posts
Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:49 pm to
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Please. LSU pre-Saban wasn't any more of an elite program than A&M, and A&M was much more successful than LSU for the 15 years prior to his arrival. Keep pretending your Alabama though if it makes yourself feel better.




When has anyone on his website ever said that LSU matches up historically with bama? I said LSU>TAMU even pre saban. Excluding 2000-present LSU still has more AP top 25 finishes AND AP top 10 finishes than TAMU has in its entire history, higher winning %, winning head to head, and a more recent national championship. Once again this is excluding from 2000 on only for LSU. We were top 13-14 program before Saban. Now we are probably around number 8-9. We werent where we are now but we werent pre spurrier florida.

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Again, show me where Miles or the other LSU coaches said they have Paris rated higher.


Could say the same to you and Sumlin. Your "insiders" may just be trying to console themselves because yall got the less regarded prospect who hasnt performed on a high level vs elite competition.
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