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re: Thanks to SEC and Heisman - A&M receives record 37,000 applications
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:05 pm to TbirdSpur2010
and most of us don't care about schools who pride themselves on male cheerleaders either... jus sayin
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:07 pm to ElDawgHawg
Says the one "without an axe to grind"
chill, brah
chill, brah
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:08 pm to ElDawgHawg
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She was accepted to each one on the list. After talking to some of the top Vets and Marine Biologists in the country she chose LSU because of National Prominence.
I hate LSU MUCH worse than A&M so I have no axe to grind with you. I'm just saying what she was told by some of the top experts in her field.
Then maybe the people she talked to were just Arkansas folk? My cousin that went to UVA(full ride), wanted to go in to vet, and chose Miami over A&M because she wanted to go in to marine shite. She never mentioned LSU. So there is another example of "national prominence".
At the end of the day, you probably couldn't go wrong with either. The only concern I would ever have with my children is that not stellar grades at a place like Arkansas are going to be very frowned upon. A 4.0 at most places is good enough for whatever you want, but when you get in the lower end tail, things like school prestige, and networking do make a difference. I would never hire someone with a 2.5 from Arkansas.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:13 pm to TeLeFaWx
quote:quote:Yes, that is why I said someone could get into A&M with a 21 but not LSU.
Actually, the current minimum LSU ACT score for admission is 22.
The minimum requirements only means that's the minimum score to be considered at all. Nobody's getting into A&M with a 21 in reality, unless you're family of Rick Perry or something.
A&M's average SAT score is 100 points higher than LSU, so these minimum requirements for consideration hardly prove LSU is harder to get in to.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:16 pm to ElDawgHawg
What are you talking about? Vet School Rankings A&M's vet school is highly regarded...far more than UGA's and UF's. And UGA and UF have pretty good vet schools.
And as far as marine biology, UC Davis is top notch. UF has some unique opportunities too.
And as far as marine biology, UC Davis is top notch. UF has some unique opportunities too.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:16 pm to TeLeFaWx
ok...agreed... you probably couldn't go wrong with either.
BTW she interned in Florida at a marine lab... that's where she talked to several "experts"
not many marine biology experts walking around the state of Arkansas. Not really our thing.
BTW she interned in Florida at a marine lab... that's where she talked to several "experts"
not many marine biology experts walking around the state of Arkansas. Not really our thing.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:17 pm to cornhat
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What are you talking about? Vet School Rankings A&M's vet school is highly regarded...far more than UGA's and UF's. And UGA and UF have pretty good vet schools.
I stand corrected
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:31 pm to ElDawgHawg
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ok...agreed... you probably couldn't go wrong with either.
BTW she interned in Florida at a marine lab... that's where she talked to several "experts"
not many marine biology experts walking around the state of Arkansas. Not really our thing.
I don't really think it is our thing either. Other than the Galveston campus, but that isn't ever going to be our strength.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:47 pm to notsince98
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I don't know how many applications Texas received this past year. I didn't see anything on their website about it.
Texas usually gets well over 50k applications every year.
For 2012 Texas had 35,431 applications, 16,563 admissions, and 8,092 actually enroll.
Texas website
Here are the comprehensive stats for A&M's 2012 class:
The Admissions Funnel
Total Number of Freshman Applications: 29,713
Total Number of Freshmen Admitted: 16,488
Total Number of Freshmen Enrolled: 8,255
Top 10% Admits: 54%
Academic Admits: 15%
Review Admits: 31%
Class Rank
Top 10% of High School Graduating Class: 54%
Top 25% of High School Graduating Class: 90%
Top 50% of High School Graduating Class: 99%
A&M Website
Couldn't find anything on 2012 but for 2011 the stats for LSU were:
14,818 Applied
11,789 Admitted
5,290 Enrolled
51% were Top 25% of their class
81% were Top 50% of their class
The greater point for A&M is if you go from 29k to 37k applications with the same size class it's going to get a lot harder to get in unless a lot of those apps are from kids that are too stupid to realize they have no chance to get in based on the published info.
I also don't like to rag on different schools per se. LSU and Arkansas are good schools with some great people and do many things well. Different schools are a fit for different types of people, regardless of academics. Facts are facts though.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 2:48 pm to scrooster
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but he has the biggest fricking ego in the history of ADs anywhere in the country.
NOT
EVEN
CLOSE
Ever heard of a guy named Bill Byrne? You know, the guy who published a weekly column on the athletics website basically being like Ron Burgundy? ("Hey everybody! Come and see how good I look!")
Back to the "application" question, when I was admitted, I had a 1320 SAT and was just barely in the top ten % with a GPA of 95.4 (Honors and AP classes weren't as heavily weighted back then).
My first semester in college was fall '96, so that would probably be equivalent to a 2300 SAT and a 105 GPA today (counting inflation) :)
This post was edited on 1/30/13 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:19 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Wtf kind of GPA system did y'all use? 105? Really?
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:24 pm to John Maplethorpe
You are welcomed. You guys should have left UT's conference a long time ago, but better late than never.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:32 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Wtf kind of GPA system did y'all use? 105? Really?
Bonus grade points were used for honors and advanced placement courses. (RISD)
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:40 pm to John Maplethorpe
LSU had 16,000 applications in a state that is 1/6th the size.
Congrats.
Congrats.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 3:43 pm to aggressor
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:32 pm to aggressor
these are really interesting stats aggressor. I know USNWR uses both the ratio of admits to applicants and enrolled to admits as part of their rating system. I think most of the other ranking systems do as well.
Also, while the extra exposure for us has been incredibly helpful obviously, the extra exposure for the SEC in Texas appears like it may be doing the same for many schools. My uncle is a teacher at one of the gifted and talented schools. He told me over Xmas that they usually have very few kids go to A&M or UTx simply because their top 10% generally go to Ivies and Rice and the like and many of the rest simply don't get in. So they end up going to out of state universities.
He told me that 3 universities have significantly increased among his students this fall - LSU, Bama, and Auburn. Apparently many of the kids that can't get into the Texas state schools are getting free rides to these due to high SAT/ACT etc. In the past, many of these kids went to OU or other out of state schools (he mentioned OU in particular). It's anecdotal but if it carries, that's a huge win for these schools as well because they are able to also increase their application base with top notch students.
Also, while the extra exposure for us has been incredibly helpful obviously, the extra exposure for the SEC in Texas appears like it may be doing the same for many schools. My uncle is a teacher at one of the gifted and talented schools. He told me over Xmas that they usually have very few kids go to A&M or UTx simply because their top 10% generally go to Ivies and Rice and the like and many of the rest simply don't get in. So they end up going to out of state universities.
He told me that 3 universities have significantly increased among his students this fall - LSU, Bama, and Auburn. Apparently many of the kids that can't get into the Texas state schools are getting free rides to these due to high SAT/ACT etc. In the past, many of these kids went to OU or other out of state schools (he mentioned OU in particular). It's anecdotal but if it carries, that's a huge win for these schools as well because they are able to also increase their application base with top notch students.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 4:58 pm to tmc94
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Why does A&M fall so far behind Texas with regards to applications? Doesn't A&M have a larger enrollment than Texas? Seems odd Texas has so many more applicants than A&M and accepts less.
I started college in the Fall of 1990 and Texas was right around 50k. We had about 40k. We have room to grow though. Texas has their 40 acres surrounded on all sides by Austin. We have over 5,200 acres. There's no telling how big we will get to be in decades to come. On the other hand, unless they start building sky scrapers, Texas has maxed out how many students they can have.
Posted on 1/30/13 at 5:00 pm to tmc94
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LSU had 16,000 applications in a state that is 1/6th the size
There are 6x more Universities to choose from in TX though.
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