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re: SEC making Push for Duke and UNC
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:00 pm to nc14
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:00 pm to nc14
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They all? No, no we didn't. UNC is lame, very lame.
Ok maybe you didnt, but you probably wouldve had a better time if you did. doesnt take a tour guide to tell you that CH > Durham. Point is there were bama fans everywhere in CH that weekend considering the fact they had a game against dook not UNC
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Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:07 pm to LawC
Can't deny franklin street. It's the tits
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:10 pm to nc14
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Tarholes suck too. We don't want them pansies in pastels.
Ole Roy bend your ole lady over and make her like it?
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:41 pm to HoLeInOnEr05
I haven't heard a peep up here about conference expansion. I don't think any of the North Carolina schools have any interest in joining the SEC anyway. Academics and college basketball are too important.
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:50 pm to NOTORlOUSD
Check out the football board on inside Carolina.com. had so many emails sent to their AD that he had to respond And reaffirm commitment to the ACC. In other news Saban will not be the next head coach of Alabama
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:05 pm to CockStrong
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Check out the football board on inside Carolina.com. had so many emails sent to their AD that he had to respond And reaffirm commitment to the ACC. In other news Saban will not be the next head coach of Alabama
That was as much about the Big 10 rumors as the SEC ones. Besides, things work differently here. Academics are a much higher priority. The schools are reluctant to risk losing basketball revenue. Also, the governor would never allow one school to leave if it screwed over the other (doesn't affect Duke).
Posted on 12/11/12 at 12:06 am to NOTORlOUSD
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The schools are reluctant to risk losing basketball revenue.
Almost unspeakably ridiculous. Good academics and common sense obviously aren't mutually inclusive.
Your basketball program turns about a $14 mil profit currently when all things are considered. The 2014 SEC environment will likely offer you about $50mil/yr more than you currently make in tv revenue. How much of the $14 mil profit do you necessarily lose in a move to the SEC? Only ACC TV revenue - which for basketball was approx equal to the SEC's prior to expansion. Basically, it's fiscally ridiculous to hold onto your little $17mil/yr tv contract - when we would be offering you one that probably easily pays in the $60+mil/yr range.
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Academics are a much higher priority
Is that why you are currently in the middle of the biggest academic cheating scandal in the history of the NCAA?
By all means, if you'd prefer to go to the B1G, that is your right. You will make much more money that way as well compared to your current situation. Just don't complain when we take NC State, and they basically make your football and baseball programs irrelevant overnight.
The ACC is not viable longterm. Don't kid yourself. This became obvious the day you revealed the revenue model from your addition of Syracuse and Pittsburgh. The tv money isn't there - while the B1Gnetwork is becoming a monster and the SECnetwork is getting ready to launch - and will dwarf everything by comparison.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 12:09 am
Posted on 12/11/12 at 1:14 am to engie
So as I think I'm one of the few (only?) Duke alum(s) on this board I feel like adding a couple of things.
Overall, Vandy is a very similar school - academically focused private school, founded by a robber baron, larger grad student population than undergrad, etc. So as a result the overall benefits from a sports perspective would be similar to Vandy.
Unlike Vandy though, Duke supplies very large alumni contingents to the two largest MSA's on the east coast in DC and NYC (myself included). And while no university can pull a majority share of either market, Duke brings that more national appeal. Even of it is only for bball.
Also, just for the record Chapel Hill sucks, Carrboro's the best town in the area.
Overall, Vandy is a very similar school - academically focused private school, founded by a robber baron, larger grad student population than undergrad, etc. So as a result the overall benefits from a sports perspective would be similar to Vandy.
Unlike Vandy though, Duke supplies very large alumni contingents to the two largest MSA's on the east coast in DC and NYC (myself included). And while no university can pull a majority share of either market, Duke brings that more national appeal. Even of it is only for bball.
Also, just for the record Chapel Hill sucks, Carrboro's the best town in the area.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 1:17 am
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:54 am to AesopsGators
Duke does have a lot of alumni in those areas, but not enough to drive cable subscriptions. The only markets that would be affected by adding UNC/Duke/NCSU are Charlotte, The Triangle, The Triad, and the smaller ones around the state. Only one school has the power to drive cable subscriptions more than 150 miles outside the border of its home state and that's Notre Dame.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:12 am to AesopsGators
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Also, just for the record Chapel Hill sucks, Carrboro's the best town in the area.
what are you a grungy hipster or something?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:16 am to engie
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The schools are reluctant to risk losing basketball revenue.
basketball would remain just as strong in SEC
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Is that why you are currently in the middle of the biggest academic cheating scandal in the history of the NCAA?
lets pump the brakes on that one
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Just don't complain when we take NC State, and they basically make your football and baseball programs irrelevant overnight.
that what I'm afraid of, in B1G our baseball becomes irrelevant and withe SEC to sell NCSU instantly becomes much more attractive to football recruits.
a move to the SEC improves all 3 of the sports people care about, a move to the B1G kills 1, hurts 1, and the other remains the same
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:20 am to AesopsGators
That's part of the problem with ACC, especially where football is concerned - too many private schools. Very difficult for them to compete consistently on the gridiron. ACC has not become better at football with the addition of "football schools", but rather have managed to make those schools weaker in football.
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just for the record Chapel Hill sucks
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:58 am to nc14
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what are you a grungy hipster or something?
This.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:22 am to LawC
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Also, just for the record Chapel Hill sucks, Carrboro's the best town in the area.
what are you a grungy hipster or something?
Preppy rich jersey a-hole I might have understood but what about Duke alum screams hipster?
Still doesn't change the fact that Franklin street is overrated and that there are far more interesting venues in Carrboro or even downtown Durham than Chapel Hill.
Chapel Hill is a nice quiet area to live away from the ghetto that is most of Durham, but there really is very little to do in the town itself.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:28 am to AesopsGators
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what about Duke alum screams hipster?
the fact that you like carrboro
also you went to dook, which is like 90% hipster or asian and like 10% rich jersey a-hole
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:44 pm to AesopsGators
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Chapel Hill is a nice quiet area to live away from the ghetto that is most of Durham, but there really is very little to do in the town itself.
Franklin St says hello!
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:20 pm to LawC
Outside of Beta and maybe 10 guys in Kappa Sig, Duke is as hipster as the Goldman Sachs trading floor.
And if you knew anything about Duke besides what you read on IC or Maryland troll sites, you'd know the pricks at Duke are from Strong Island and Fairfield County, not NJ
Franklin St is pretty solid
And if you knew anything about Duke besides what you read on IC or Maryland troll sites, you'd know the pricks at Duke are from Strong Island and Fairfield County, not NJ
Franklin St is pretty solid
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:52 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Outside of Beta and maybe 10 guys in Kappa Sig, Duke is as hipster as the Goldman Sachs trading floor.
This.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:14 pm to AesopsGators
Haha, what year did you graduate? I am Trinity '07
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:37 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Duke is as hipster as the Goldman Sachs trading floor.
I agree with LawC on this one. That campus is full of "hipsters and Asians". Maybe it's so hipster they have a secret new term for it.
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