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A year of film on A&M/JFF

Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:17 am
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:17 am
Next season, when SEC DC''s have a year of film that isn't Houston's offense with some other QB,WR's etc, how big of an impact will this have in slowing down A&M?

Florida had nothing to watch and did a nice job containing them. LSU also shut themdown for the first 26 min of the 2nd half. I think A&M's time in the sun will be brief if they don't develop a strong running game.
This post was edited on 11/17/12 at 9:23 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:23 am to
quote:

I think A&M's time in the sun will be brief if they don't develop a strong running game.


A&M leads the SEC in rushing.

Also, our offense isn't just gonna stagnate at the end of year 1
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:30 am to
A lot of A&M's yards and plays come after contact. Granted, the style of play creates missed tackles, but one of the vulnerabilities is that since the better defenses are often able to make contact, finding a way to follow through with that initial contact would leave A&M looking for other ways to make plays.

Will be interesting to see how it all unfolds for the next few years.
Posted by Bose Ikard
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:30 am to
These kind of comments reek of wishful thinking. Yes, the SEC will have a year of film on A&M and Manziel, but Manziel will have another year of learning the system, developing physically, and getting accustomed to his teammates. Players are virtually always better their soph year than their fresh year, for obvious reasons.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:31 am to
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A&M leads the SEC in rushing.



That's all JFF. He has almost 800 yds more than your next leading rusher.

Like I said, a strong running game.

Posted by Gladius Veritas
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:33 am to
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Also, our offense isn't just gonna stagnate at the end of year 1


Well you are losing a pretty big part of your success in the offensive line
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:35 am to
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That's all JFF. He has almost 800 yds more than your next leading rusher.

is 800 the new 300? Because Ben Malena has 687 yards and is averaging 6.3 ypc. And is JFF not allowed to rush next year?
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:36 am to
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Well you are losing a pretty big part of your success in the offensive line

we are?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:36 am to
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Like I said, a strong running game.


If he's leading the SEC in rushing, it IS a strong running game. Running doesn't necessarily mean that the ball must be handed off to the RB. Designed QB runs and scrambles work just as well. JFF has proven hard (but not impossible) to stop in that department.

The best way to limit his (and, by extension, A&M's) rushing opportunities is to make him a passer and force A&M to be one-dimensional. Problem is, he's improved exponentially as a passer (see the difference between his passing in the UF and Bama games), and if the D sits back too long waiting for the pass, either JFF or one of our RBs will gash you.

It's not an impossible offense to stop by any means, but it's effective in that it basically forces the defense to pick it's poison. Then it all comes down to execution.

Posted by Gladius Veritas
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:39 am to
next year yes
Posted by tmc94
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:39 am to
and why exactly is that?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Well you are losing a pretty big part of your success in the offensive line


No, not really.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:02 am to
quote:

If he's leading the SEC in rushing, it IS a strong running game. Running doesn't necessarily mean that the ball must be handed off to the RB. Designed QB runs and scrambles work just as well.


That's what I'm talking about when I say strong running game. I'm not being a smart arse, but week in week out,in this league, a QB cannot be the focus of the running game and stay healthy. Tebow as big as he was, had Rainey and Demps and that was their biggest flaw. The lack of a strong running game. Maybe I should've said power running game.
Posted by troywew
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:03 am to
Big foot took a picture of JFF
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:06 am to
I'm certainly not going to look forward to playing him the next 2-3 years. Good thing we have them at home next year.

I wouldn't discount their defense as well. Moore and Porter will be high draft picks. Pretty sure Moore either leads the league or is close to it in the SEC in sacks
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:10 am to
quote:

That's what I'm talking about when I say strong running game. I'm not being a smart arse, but week in week out,in this league, a QB cannot be the focus of the running game and stay healthy. Tebow as big as he was, had Rainey and Demps and that was their biggest flaw. The lack of a strong running game. Maybe I should've said power running game.


I know you're not being a smartass, sorry if I came off as one. I hear what you're saying, but I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. The type of offense we run is different than anyone else in this league. We don't need a traditional power running game because teams are forced to adapt to our attack.
Posted by 03ki11er
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:11 am to
What good will an entire year of film do for a defensive coordinator when he'll only have one week to prepare? That's the biggest problem for SEC coaches when preparing for A&M. They match up against down hill running teams every week and have to adjust completely for A&M. The bottom line is it doesn't matter what you prepare for if you cannot stop it in the first place.

Florida was able to stop JFF because it was his first game ever and JFF had not yet learned to adjust himself. LSU got out by the skin of their teeth thanks completely to A&M. If that game is played today A&M wins 7 out of 10 times.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:22 am to
Saban had almost a whole year of film and we beat him.

Unless you think our last two games against Mizzou and a FCS team really matter, then your premise is flawed.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:23 am to
Because one player MAYBE leaving early = our entire line

Such wishful thinking.
Posted by cardboardboxer
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34680 posts
Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:25 am to
Exactly why we DON'T want a "power running game."

SEC teams are used to it, heck Bama is built to stop it.

What SEC teams are not used to is an up tempo spread so that is what we will use.

I know it hurts the pride of SEC fans, but the power running game is overrated.
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