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Can you grab/tackle a RB on a screen

Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:01 pm
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:01 pm
The reason I ask is on another board I saw florida fans saying that the flag on Easley in the 4th quarter on the TD drive was bs. They were saying that because he was behind the line of scrimmage you can hold or tackle all you want.

My question is: can you do this when the ball is in the air and he's trying to make a catch? If it is legal why don't we see that more often?

TIA. LINK

ETA: Linked the wrong play
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 6:03 pm
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:02 pm to
you can blow the running back up on the option before he gets it, so I don't see why not.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:03 pm to
Legally no.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:03 pm to
No if he is behind the line you can hit him. I don't think you can grab him I have seen them call holding recently.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:03 pm to
I would say yes. Behind the line of scrimmage.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:04 pm to
Once the ball is in the air you cannot make contact with the receiver.

But as a defender you can tackle to RB in the backfield wether he has the ball or not.

Similar to being able to jam receivers in the first five yards from the LOS, but once that ball is in the air it's hands off.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 6:05 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:04 pm to
Within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage you can knock the shite out of someone, just can't grab them.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I would say yes. Behind the line of scrimmage.



So even when the ball is in the air? The line of scrimmage negates that?

I only ask because I never played football past middle school so I'm not versed on rules as specific as this.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 6:07 pm
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:05 pm to
I could be wrong, but you can definitely grab a rb going for a screen behind the LOS. I think it may have been a penalty because he waited to grab him after the ball was in the air... that would make sense but i'm speculating.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:06 pm to
I would think the definition of Pass interference would reference a forward pass. If that is the case being behind the LOS would be irrelevant.

The option is different because it is a lateral.
Posted by Veritas
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:06 pm to
So you can't when the pass is behind the LOS and technically a running play?
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:07 pm to
You are correct

quote:

lob1284


Like i said, its similar to jamming WRs at the LOS. You have that 5-yrd cushion to jam and make conctact. If contact is iniated before the ball is in the air, no penalty. If there is no contact, QB throws to the WR, then contact is made (even if within the 5-yrd cushion) it is PI.
This post was edited on 10/31/12 at 6:08 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:07 pm to
When the ball is in the air it goes to standard interference rules
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:07 pm to
A defender who makes contact with an intended receiver behind the line of scrimmage cannot be called for pass interference at any level of American football, although he may still be guilty of a different foul.
Posted by Veritas
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:07 pm to
So it appears it has to do with the ball being in the air.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:09 pm to
Correct
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:11 pm to
I remember that play. I guess technicaly it'd be holding.
Posted by TideSatchel
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:13 pm to
So if the receiver on the screen isn't across the LOS, PI rules still don't apply. The pass has to cross the LOS for PI. But, defensive holding rules say that you can't use hands or arms to tackle, hold, or otherwise illegally obstruct anyone but the ball carrier. So it's a question of whether or not its defensive holding, until the pass crosses the LOS.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:13 pm to
According to wiki PI cannot be called behind the LOS in high school and college ball. The whole field is open for PI in the NFL.
Posted by lob1284
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Posted on 10/31/12 at 6:22 pm to
I don't think they called it PI, i believe it was called a hold, but the timing of the ball being in the air is my guess as to why the flag was thrown.
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