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Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:26 am
Posted by Jefferson Davis
Plank Road
Member since Nov 2011
5960 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:26 am
If you don't completely collapse against Okie State and Arkansas and finish 9-4, is Mike Sherman still your coach?
Posted by starkag
Member since Oct 2011
446 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:27 am to
Yes. 100% yes. Last season sucked, but hopefully it will be worth it.
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:28 am to
Unfortunately, yes.

Led by 17 against Okie State at half -- Lost by 1

Led by 18 against Arky at half -- Lost by 4

Led Mizzou by 11 in 4th Quarter -- Lost in OT

Led Kansas State by 14 in 4th -- Lost in OT

Led Texas by 13 -- Lost



Sherman was a bitch in the 2nd half.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:32 am to
The miracle comeback he let Arky have and losing to the gay boys in Austin on Thanksgiving were the two unforgivables. But am glad we took the lumps and got Sumlin going into the SEC.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4551 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 9:35 am to
Yes, but the straw that broke the camels back was the Texas game... that one was inexcusable to lose.
Posted by Greg09Ag
Third Coast yuh heeeeard
Member since Sep 2011
3168 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:10 am to
Yup. The straw that broke the camels back was the tu loss. It saved Fran one year and he was the worst coach in A&M history.

The shite of it was his second half stats were just as bad when he coached under the Texans.
Posted by FincAg11
San Antonio
Member since May 2012
414 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 10:19 am to
Most likely. But there's a reason we did. And he was a huge part of that reason.

And BTW, we collapsed in all but one of our losses. 5 losses by 17 points. That's a mentally weak team right there.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 12:51 pm to
I think the Missouri loss had more to do with his firing than either Oklahoma State or Arkansas. He lost to Missouri again....at Kyle....in OT. That's not a knock on Missouri, but we had a much more talented team and a pretty fricking good home-field advantage. None of these teams, or the fairies from Austin, were more responsible for Sherman's ultimate undoing than the complete shite Sherman pooped out in Norman. The loss the the fairies just sped up his firing.

Oklahoma State was very disappointing, but not the nail in Sherman's coffin. It looked like Okie Lite was a really good team (which they were) but simply had a bad first half. See the 21 unanswered 3rd quarter points.

1 2 3 4 T
#7 OKST 3 0 21 6 30
#8 TA&M 10 10 0 9 29

Arkie was also disappointing, but a very competitive game against a very good team. Arkie scored 25 second-half points to A&M's 3. Not the final nail in his coffin again, but this is 2 weeks in a row. There were probably some grumblings within the admin.

1 2 3 4 T
#14 TA&M 14 21 0 3 38
#18 ARK 7 10 10 15 42

Missouri was not a bad team, but this game was a huge egg. We had a more talented team and one of the best home-field advantages in college football, and Sherm STILL couldn't hold it together. Even this dumpster fire of a game was not his undoing in my opinion.

MIZZ 14 3 0 14 7 38
#16 TA&M 7 21 0 3 0 31

It was the 28 3rd quarter points we gave up to a decent team that we were handling pretty well in the first half. This, in my opinion, was the evidence the admin needed to make a decision. It wasn't even the final score that killed him. He could have lost this game and still kept his job. That 3rd quarter beatdown unequivocally proved the trend and cost Sherman his job IMO. The prior losses only acted to confirm the trend. He may have been allowed to coach the first year in the SEC, but they would have replaced him after the first year, knowing he would struggle. that would have provided the excuse they needed. I think they wanted to keep him for the transition to the SEC and can his arse after the first year.

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TA&M 3 7 0 15 25
#6 OKLA 7 6 28 0 41

When a fairly shitty Kansas State did the exact same cocksucking, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-arse, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shite, it did nothing more than get pretty much everyone behind a change. I still think they wanted to keep him on to transition to the SEC for the first year.
1 2 3 4 4OT T
TA&M 0 14 7 10 19 50
#14 KSU 0 14 0 17 22 53

The loss to the fairies from Austin IN THE SAME frickING FASHION hurried his departure a year earlier than the admin really wanted. This was against the shittiest Homo team in years, with home-field advantage, and WELL MORE than enough motivation to kick the fricking shite out of these gak holes, and he STILL fricked it up. If he wins this game, he leads A&M to the SEC, but the search for his replacement would have been underway before we played one down of football in the SEC.

#25 TEX 0 7 17 3 27
TA&M 10 6 0 9 25
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44147 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 1:05 pm to
I'm doubtful.

Sherman was always going to be the stepping stone between the utter disaster/debacle/nightmare that was Franchione and whomever we eventually chose (Sumlin). I think the SEC move hastened Sherman's exit (wouldn't have been a good fit at all), not any specific game last year.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29193 posts
Posted on 7/26/12 at 7:40 pm to
Sherman's offense is better than Sumlin's/KK's imo, and DeRuyter was better than whoever the frick we have now, but Sumlin has handled the SEC transition well, and has recruited very very very well. Who knows what would have happened though. We were talented enough to win every game we played this year, and if our corners were healthy we could have fairer better against OU as well. Woulda shoulda coulda I guess but it was easily the most heartbreaking season of college football I have watched.
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