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re: NCAA Proposes Cecil Newton Law to Close Loophole That AU Slipped Through

Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:40 pm to
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Im sorry that you're dumb enough to think taking a fishing trip with someone you thought was a friend is worse than trying to extort 180,000 dollars from a college?


I'm sorry that you actually think you are smarter than the President of the NCAA and there interpretation of their rules.

It baffles me that you think not receiving illegal benefits is more serious than actually receiving illegal benefits.

Carry on, tard. I'm sure your argument gets e-highfives over on tardsports.com.
This post was edited on 7/27/11 at 12:41 pm
Posted by AUnite
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:41 pm to
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Cam was an adult, over 21. In this once instance, the NCAA could say parent = athlete.


take you logic elsewhere Hunter!
Posted by secfan123
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:42 pm to
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Can you show me where? And per the rules someone acted as an influence onto means to determine where he went, for a fee. So I would say they are very much the same.


No, they are not. The parent, being equal to the athlete, his/her behavior is impugned to the athlete. That is not so with a coach.

Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:43 pm to
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The parent, being equal to the athlete


You keep saying this, but if you would like to prove this as past precedent rather than your own opinion, as everyone has asked several times, Show us where they(NCAA)has said this
This post was edited on 7/27/11 at 12:44 pm
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:43 pm to
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Cam was an adult, over 21. In this once instance, the NCAA could say parent = athlete.

That is the opposite of true. If there was evidence to support Cam asking Cecil to act on his behalf to solicit funds, then NCAA could say it. However, simply because Cam let Cecil influence his decision doesn't mean Cam gave Cecil the authority to act as his agent to solicit funds from MSU. But we have plowed this field many times before.
Posted by LOYALBAMA
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:45 pm to
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What would stop me from going up to Alabama and asking for money on behalf of every recruit they sign, then?


A good o'l fashioned Alabama arse Woppin.


I suppose the NCAA will retain the right to punish as they see fit. They could just tell the school to disassociate the offending party without punishing the kid if they so choose.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:46 pm to
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simply because Cam let Cecil influence his decision doesn't mean Cam gave Cecil the authority to act as his agent to solicit funds from MSU. But we have plowed this field many times before


We have. And I stand by the argument that giving his father permission to decide his future and where he would sign, in effect, made him culpable to his fathers decisions and any transgressions he may have made. If he had been a minor, maybe there would be less of an argument, however, being over 21, he was old enough to make a coherent decision of his own to relinquish his decisions and be held accountable for any that his dad made on his behalf.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:46 pm to
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I'm sorry that you actually think you are smarter than the President of the NCAA and there interpretation of their rules.



No, im simply not dumb enough to believe everything im told. Just like I dont believe certain things government officials tell me. They ruled the way they did, not because they thought it the correct ruling, but to avoid embarassment.



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It baffles me that you think not receiving illegal benefits is more serious than actually receiving illegal benefits.


Seriously i shout your fricking argument down here quite badly. It was stupid to begin with, and has only grown stupider. See murder conspiracy/assault metaphor.

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Carry on, tard. I'm sure your argument gets e-highfives over on tardsports.com.


Man you're dumb.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:46 pm to
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A good o'l fashioned Alabama arse Woppin.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:48 pm to
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A good o'l fashioned Alabama arse Woppin.


So you start the fight pretty strong then half way through it give up and let me curb stomp you.















I kid, I kid
Posted by AUnite
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:48 pm to
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Just like I dont believe certain things government officials tell me.

Posted by secfan123
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:49 pm to
"was always told the parent is the child."


This is a USC coach on what the ncaa told him. Now, I suppose he could be lying, but the odds of that are incredibly slim.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:51 pm to
Is this anywhere in NCAA rullings or guidelines? You seem to be forming an opinion and stating it as fact without anything to back it up
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:51 pm to
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Seriously i shout your fricking argument down here quite badly. It was stupid to begin with, and has only grown stupider. See murder conspiracy/assault metaphor.


You didn't shoot anything down.

I'm just not going to continue to argue with someone who won't change their opinion no matter what is said.



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Man you're dumb.
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stupider

Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:51 pm to
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There was never a loophole to begin with! IMHO


this IMO

it was a completely irrational decision they made under pressure
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:53 pm to
Im sorry you believe everything the government has told you AUnite. You must be the most gullible person in alabama. The Gulf of Tonking incident, Bill clinton not having sex with lewinski, Dick Nixon claiming he's not a crook, Bush saying Ira has a viable nuke program (and clinton before him), Bush one saying he wouldnt raise taxesetc. . No, te government is always on the up and up. Btw, I have ocean front property just outside of huntville for a steal.....
Posted by piggidyphish
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:55 pm to
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But I will defend my team and give my opinions when deemed necessary.


No problem with defending your team, but you're attacking auburn here...based on your lack of understanding of the bylaw you're refering to.

But I love a good red herring.
Posted by AUnite
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Member since Nov 2010
14828 posts
Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:56 pm to
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Im sorry you believe everything the government has told you AUnite.

I never said that, now did I?

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You must be the most gullible person in alabama.

Nope, but you've obviously never met my dumbass cousins.

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I have ocean front property just outside of huntville for a steal.....

Sure you do. I bet you could sell it to my cousin.
Posted by secfan123
beverly hills
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:57 pm to
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You didn't shoot anything down.


yes, i did.


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I'm just not going to continue to argue with someone who won't change their opinion no matter what is said.


no, you simply are irritated you dont have a cogent argument.



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Man you're dumb.
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Yes, stupider is a word. check you're dictionary.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/11 at 12:58 pm to
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