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re: Why did Louisiana not form a traditional "University of Louisiana" originally?

Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:25 pm to
LSU shouldn't be trusted. Afterall, William Tecumseh Sherman was the first superintendent.
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 12:26 pm
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19747 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:28 pm to
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But LSU is the flagship university of the LSU System


LSU is the flagship university in this state--not just the LSU system.
Flagship of Louisiana

No legitimate argument can be made for any other Louisiana school.
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 12:29 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:29 pm to
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Tulane's private

Now it is...it wasn't originally.

1834 - Medical College of Louisiana
1847 - Became the University of Louisiana
1884 - Became Tulane University of Louisiana after control was transferred from the state the the Tulane Educational Fund which was established after large real estate donations from Paul Tulane.

According to Wikipedia, Tulane is the only American university to be converted from a state public institution to a private institution.

LINK
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 12:30 pm
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19747 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:30 pm to
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LSU shouldn't be trusted. Afterall, William Tecumseh Sherman was the first superintendent.


Hopefully, like Sherman, we can make a march to Atlanta for the SEC championship game this year, albeit in a different manner.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:38 pm to
Hopefully, like Sherman, we can make a march to Atlanta for the SEC championship game this year, albeit in a different manner.


Naaah, we can leave Mississippi, Bama, and Florida in flames on the way there
Posted by smillerlsu
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2007
248 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:45 pm to
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No legitimate argument can be made for any other Louisiana school.


Completely agree... but just wondering about how official that link is outside of the LSU system. I know that the UL system did not designate a flagship for their system, but unless the State of Louisiana has drafted legislation designating LSU (Baton Rouge) as the flagship university of the state, it is an unofficial designation.
Posted by ShreveportTIGER318
Shreveport
Member since Apr 2008
2832 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:50 pm to
In terms of liberal arts schools....


"Centenary College of Louisiana is the oldest chartered liberal arts college in the United States west of the Mississippi River."

LINK
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:57 pm to
This.

LINK

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There are over 3,000 colleges and universities in the United States. Centenary College of Louisiana is the 43rd oldest. It was founded in 1825 by the State in the last days of the 5th president of the U.S. – James Monroe. Known then as the College of Louisiana, it was located in the village of Jackson.


quote:

Before 1845, the College of Louisiana had established itself as one of the leading educational institutions in the country, rivaling even Harvard’s enrollment, as nearly 300 students showed up for some sessions. But its location off the beaten track and the State’s failure to support it financially led to its merger with Centenary College, a Mississippi Methodist institution. That college was founded to celebrate the 100th Anniversary of John Wesley’s organization of the Methodist Societies of England. Centenary was suffering financially and bought the plant and buildings at Jackson and moved to the Louisiana location. The selling price was $10,000; however, the Methodist conference of Mississippi paid only $166.66, never paying the balance.

The amalgamation of the two schools in 1845 under the name “Centenary College of Louisiana” proved to be a good move for both institutions. Before the Civil War, Centenary enjoyed productive years. A magnificent classroom/administration building was erected in 1846, flanked by two dorms, one of which is still standing as a museum and relic. The Civil War, in effect, dealt a mortal wound to Centenary and Jackson. The College closed during the conflict, and six of the 10 seniors were killed in battle or died of wounds and illness. The College was used as a hospital and was captured and recaptured by Union and Confederate forces. The campus itself was the scene of more than one battle. Centenary at Jackson never really recovered from the War. It hung on there till 1908, but only barely. Perhaps the best thing that can be said of those bleak postwar years in Jackson is that finally in 1895, 70 years after its founding, women were admitted to the College. In 1903, four of the 20 graduates were women. The College moved to Shreveport in 1908 through the efforts of prominent Shreveport Methodists.


So there was a College of Louisiana; it was just a long time ago and it's merged, changed its name, and moved to a different site since then.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 12:59 pm to
Didn't LSU not move from Pineville to Baton Rouge, until around 1910?
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:14 pm to
From wikipedia:

quote:

On April 30, 1926, formal dedication of the present LSU campus took place, following the school's history at the federal garrison grounds (now the site of the state capitol) where it had been located since 1886.


So it seems like LSU was located in Baton Rouge, where the State Capitol is now, from 1886 but didn't have a formal campus until 1926. I don't know since I didn't go there.

I have to go off wiki since I didn't go there and personally read up on their history.
This post was edited on 7/15/11 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Hubbhogg
Fayettechill
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:23 pm to
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LSU is the flagship


:hogsessed:
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90006 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:33 pm to
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Didn't LSU not move from Pineville to Baton Rouge, until around 1910?



It was after that. Mid 20's.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72275 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:33 pm to
I think the original Baton Rouge campus was near downtown, until moving to the present location around the time you noted.
Posted by BamagirlinBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2009
111 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:35 pm to
Louisiana wanted to be different just like we are the only state in the country to have parishes instead of counties.

Just kidding, I can't answer that question. Just could not resist putting my 2 cents in.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

I think the original Baton Rouge campus was near downtown, until moving to the present location around the time you noted.


Posted this in another thread:


LSU has the newest campus in the SEC.

LSU was formerly based in Pineville, La. On October 15th, 1869, the Pineville campus burned to the ground. Classes would resume November 1st in Baton Rouge at Institute for the Deaf, Dumb, and Blind.

LSU begins moving to the federal garrison grounds (now the site of the state capitol) in 1886.

The present campus was dedicated in 1926. The move to the new campus was finally completed in 1932.



Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90006 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

I think the original Baton Rouge campus was near downtown



Correct.


quote:

until moving to the present location around the time you noted.



Not correct.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:39 pm to
good thing the original campus burned down. br is slightly better than pineville
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72275 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:41 pm to
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Not correct.


Why? That's pretty much what hbt stated. 1926...
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90006 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:42 pm to
Sorry, I thought you were referring to 1910.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 7/15/11 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

good thing the original campus burned down. br is slightly better than pineville


No telling how big Pineville would be today if LSU had stayed though. Conversely, there's no predicting how big LSU would be if they had stayed in Pineville.

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