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re: Will Dareus going #1 overall end the debate about the 3-4...

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Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:10 pm to
Where is Greenwood playing Offensive Tackle?
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:10 pm to
And most name Leterson the most talented
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:11 pm to
Is dareus the least productive (in college) top-10 player of all time? i feel like he's being drafted purely off of potential..
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Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:11 pm to
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Where is Greenwood playing Offensive Tackle?



KC

Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:11 pm to
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At the same time though, only 1 of them was drafted in the 1st 3 rounds if drafted at all, you can't really slip that by a recruit.



Most of those guys wouldn't even be on NFL rosters without having played for Saban. Alabama was devoid of defensive line depth beyond those three, when Saban arrived. We're just now seeing defensive linemen on Alabama's roster than are draft eligible.

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Dareus will add a 1st Rounder, but that still isn't enough consistency IMO...


Again, the same argument. We have been fairly young on the defensive line, outside of the few that Saban originally inherited in 2007.
Posted by SWestbrookAU
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Is dareus the least productive (in college) top-10 player of all time?


Top 5 draft pick.. probably.
Posted by SpringBokCock
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:12 pm to
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...and the prospects Alabama pursues? Lots of negative recruiting with defensive linemen that Alabama targets.


Not unless Alabama quits trying to turn defensive ends into Jack linebacker.

Just let it go. You weren't getting Clowney anyway -- even if you did play him at his natural position.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:13 pm to
seems like most people have dareus going #2 to teh broncos

and I'm sure whatever criticism you are worried about seems really important... but almost no one else seems worried about it IMO

Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:13 pm to
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The Cam number 1 talk is just Currrrilina trying to get Buffalo to trade up.


I thought Buffalo was all over Gabbert.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:14 pm to
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Top 5 draft pick.. probably.



he'll still make bank
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:15 pm to
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I thought Buffalo was all over Gabbert.


They are, thats why it isnt gonna work, and the Panthers will draft Marcel.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:15 pm to
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Not unless Alabama quits trying to turn defensive ends into Jack linebacker.


With the amount of 3-4 defenses in the NFL, where the Hell do you think they're going to end up at the next level.

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Just let it go. You weren't getting Clowney anyway -- even if you did play him at his natural position.



He was just an example. Don't get so riled up.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:16 pm to
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and I'm sure whatever criticism you are worried about seems really important... but almost no one else seems worried about it IMO



It's always an argument near NSD.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:16 pm to
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They are, thats why it isnt gonna work, and the Panthers will draft Marcel.


Gotcha
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:16 pm to
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Well, Georgia runs a version of the 3-4, so you're biased.


Of course I am.
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:18 pm to
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I thought Buffalo was all over Gabbert.



They are, thats why it isnt gonna work



Dunno, I think Buffalo is supposedly most likely to take either Gabbert or Von Miller

Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:18 pm to
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Most of those guys wouldn't even be on NFL rosters without having played for Saban. Alabama was devoid of defensive line depth beyond those three, when Saban arrived. We're just now seeing defensive linemen on Alabama's roster than are draft eligible.


Even so, the pitch "We'll get you in the NFL" isn't good enough anymore, now recruits want to be drafted in the top rounds and Bama hasn't shown enough consistency to convince a recruit.

If Bama can get around 4 DL drafted in the top 3 rounds, it might sooth the qualm...
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:20 pm to
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Even so, the pitch "We'll get you in the NFL" isn't good enough anymore, now recruits want to be drafted in the top rounds and Bama hasn't shown enough consistency to convince a recruit.

If Bama can get around 4 DL drafted in the top 3 rounds, it might sooth the qualm...



Alabama has 3-4 guys that are top three round material over the next two draft classes. Chapman, Williams, and Square can all be drafted that high. Ed Stinson may soon make a name for himself.
Posted by deaux68
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:21 pm to
It's a terrible argument because Bama plays with 4 down lineman about 90% of the time.

Jack linebacker is a fancy name for defensive end that will will stand up from time to time.

As far as tackles go, we actually have more opportunities to play since we play a nose, a DT, and a DT/DE in most sets.

Argument is moot and anybody with common sense or the ability to listen to our coaching staff would know that.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 4/27/11 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

It's a terrible argument because Bama plays with 4 down lineman about 90% of the time.

Jack linebacker is a fancy name for defensive end that will will stand up from time to time.



These are other factors people tend to overlook. When in nickel and dime, the Jack LB is in his "natural position".
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