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re: If you have time... Listen to Les Miles

Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:49 pm to
yeah, that's the third time you posted that in this thread. you're a douche bag, we get it. move along.
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:51 pm to
I just find it amusing that LSU fans refuse to see it that way. You guys are drinking the Miles Koolaide a bit too much.
Posted by Dez
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:52 pm to
Most say that he wasn't offered the job the first time (2007).
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62953 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:53 pm to
Blah, blah, blah on the "it was his alma mater, he was being nice to them" crap.

He knows LSU won't go Boston College on him and fire him just for interviewing with someone else.
He would have entertained any serious offers, regardless of alumni status. He is smart to do that. But for the real reason:

Let me give you a hint: $$$
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:53 pm to
I find that hard to believe since some people were saying he was a done deal to be going there. He must have been offered the job at some point.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

I could understand turning down your dream job once but not twice if you truly felt that


I don't doubt his love and respect for his alma mater, but considering all the factors, including how his family feels (remember his kids don't necessarily have the same feeling toward Michigan that he has) he made a decision that was best for him and his family. He also recognized that it isn't just his decision alone. I respect the fact that he also realizes that he has other folks to think about in deciding his future plans. I think he listened twice to Michigan precisely because he has such strong respect for his alma mater and it still tugs at him. But after weighing all the factors, he decided that LSU was still best for him. I don't think the fact that he decided to stay at LSU at all diminishes his affection for Michigan, but having looked twice, he now knows that his dream job is where he is now.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 10:56 pm
Posted by FanofJazz
houston
Member since Feb 2008
274 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:55 pm to
I can honestly say that we have one fine man as our coach-i don't know if we could have replaced him!
Posted by mrbayoublu
Acadiana
Member since Jan 2004
2786 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:56 pm to
About the Booing, I also like when he understands there is about 2500 knuckleheads out there, but that fans actually care about getting things right, that is what must be kept in mind.

And fans in stadiums all through the SEC demand that sooner or later that there Coaches and Administration get it right.

Heck, Bama bitched and moaned until there Administration ponied up got a Coach very interested in getting it right...to the tune of a National Championship and more importantly, respect.

Passionate fans keep their teams rolling.
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:57 pm to
If the decision was not right for him and his family he had no reason to speak to them other than trying to get more $$$ from LSU. Thank you for making my point for me.
Posted by LesMilesBandwagon
The Rouge
Member since Dec 2005
384 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

I think he used his alma mater to get an extension and nothing more. He was never serious about going back there and strung them along to get more from LSU. Michigan should never deal with him again imo.


Go pay your coach some more money. Its so worth it.
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Let me give you a hint: $$$


Does the money likely matter? Probably. Does it matter as much to him as you think? Probably not. He is a multimillionaire whether he stays at LSU or goes. He didn't get a raise to stay. He got a contract extension. I am sure that if he was about the money, he could have made as much or more by going to Michigan. I get the distinct impression that it was more about where he and his family felt the best about being rather than about the relatively small differences in the finances between Michigan and LSU's salary packages.
Posted by Dez
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 10:59 pm to
So in your opinion, when a good job offer is presented to you, even if you have a great job already, you shouldn't hear them out and weigh your options?
Posted by tigerinridgeland
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2006
7636 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:00 pm to
Scoop, you are fixated on the money so much you are missing the point. Sometimes you don't know what is the right place to be until you look at what your options are, even if you are happy where you are currently. I have looked at other job opportunities, not because I am not happy wth my current employment (where I have been for almost 20 years), but because things change, and you don't want to miss other opportunities that might be better. But after looking at those opportunities, I realize that where I am is where I really want to be. Looking at other opportunities isn't always about the money. Miles would have plenty either place. But he owes it to himself and his family to look at other opportunities. Sometimes you have to do that before you appreciate fully that you really are in the place you ought to be.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:01 pm to
If you know ahead of time that it is not better for you and your family no. It was a convenient opportunity for him to string them along for a second time and he jumped on it. You don't turn down your "dream job" twice.
Posted by Dez
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:02 pm to
Again, there is a lot of speculation on your part.
Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:04 pm to
You call it speculation but I see it as fairly obvious. A lot of coaches string along programs to squeeze more money out school they are already coaching. He was never serious about taking that job.
Posted by Dez
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:06 pm to
Well then this will be impossible to argue. I'll let you rest well with the fact that you know exactly what was going on in Miles' and his family's head. You seem to have all the facts.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:07 pm to
quote:

I think it was just posturing more than serious consideration. He ended up getting what he wanted out of LSU. Michigan went to him 2 different times asking him to come back and help the program and he rejected them. I could understand turning down your dream job once but not twice if you truly felt that way.


that's right, you don't understand. you don't understand a lot of things. miles is a sincere guy and you don't understand that. miles loves LSU and you don't understand that. miles respects and loves his alma matar and owed them consideration and you don't understand that. miles is a family man and considering them in making his decision and you don't understand that. miles loves his players and they love him and you don't understand that. it appears to me that you are just a stupid shite that doesnt understand shite so you attempt to discount our coach and his love of LSU. why don't you go and not understand elsewhere.
Posted by Dez
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2007
1759 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

LSU GrandDad


Posted by Bamascoopfan
Honolulu
Member since Jul 2010
2008 posts
Posted on 1/12/11 at 11:10 pm to
I think you feel that way because it is the best way for an LSU fan to look at it. However if you were removed from it, or if another coach happened to do it you would be saying the exact same thing. Miles had a convenient opportunity that came at the perfect time for him and he used it to his advantage and nothing more. He was never serious about taking the Michigan job. He was smart in talking to them after a successful season and bowl win. Michigan was the only team interested in him and but he was not serious about being their coach. In talking to them he ended up getting exactly what he wanted out of LSU. It was a smart business decision on his part and LSU was not in a position to turn him down. Talking to Michigan gave him a bargaining chip that he could use against LSU. Give me an extension or I will go take the Michigan job.
This post was edited on 1/12/11 at 11:17 pm
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