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Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:22 pm to Aeronaut
Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:22 pm to Aeronaut
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I presume you know that the baseless allegations at this time are of Cecil "soliciting". This section is about "agreeing to receive yadda yadda..."
Yeah, this is fact and I'm not sure why some of you are not able to recognize it. Auburn is in no danger here, unless someone can prove, in court that AU paid Cam or a member of his family for his commitment.
It breaks down like this. If I'm a 5* recruit and I'm trying to decide between LSU and Bama. I'm doing it right, and just waiting until the last minute to make a tough decision. However, my crackhead cousin decides to frick with me behind me back and calls a booster from Bama demanding 100K or I'll play for LSU. Bama pays out for fear the other will steal me, and the cousin hops a plane to Brazil. I commit to LSU the next week, WITH ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT MY CRACKHEAD COUSIN DID, and Bama turns me/my cousin in to the NCAA and the SEC.
Now I ask you, is that my fault? Because until someone can prove that Cam had any knowledge of a single thing going on behind the scenes, it's all moot.
Now, I believe that a booster from AU actually DID pay Cams dad for his commitment. I also believe that Cam knew WHY his father made him go to AU. But, as I've stated, unless there's proof (and we're talking about more than an un-named source telling ESPN that he received an upset phone call from Cam claiming "the money was right") it won't amount to anything for AU and at the most, a suspension for Cam, who is going pro anyway.
All in all, the state of Ala-frickin-bama gets away with another one...
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Posted on 11/16/10 at 10:41 pm to OPR
I let my dad decide everything for me too! He never tells me anything except go to work. If any auburn fan believes that cam newton is innocent, probably think OJ ran from the police for the hell of it!
This post was edited on 11/16/10 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 11/17/10 at 6:33 am to OPR
You do realize that Cam's father being paid is the same as Newton being paid (as far as the NCAA is concerned)?
If you really think that analogy is anything close to what happened with Cam Newton and his dad, then you are a truly, truly naiive person.
Cecil is not a crackhead. He's a preacher. He and Cam knew what was going on the whole time.
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It breaks down like this...
If you really think that analogy is anything close to what happened with Cam Newton and his dad, then you are a truly, truly naiive person.
Cecil is not a crackhead. He's a preacher. He and Cam knew what was going on the whole time.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:00 am to OPR
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It breaks down like this. If I'm a 5* recruit and I'm trying to decide between LSU and Bama. I'm doing it right, and just waiting until the last minute to make a tough decision. However, my crackhead cousin decides to frick with me behind me back and calls a booster from Bama demanding 100K or I'll play for LSU. Bama pays out for fear the other will steal me, and the cousin hops a plane to Brazil. I commit to LSU the next week, WITH ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT MY CRACKHEAD COUSIN DID, and Bama turns me/my cousin in to the NCAA and the SEC.
Now I ask you, is that my fault? Because until someone can prove that Cam had any knowledge of a single thing going on behind the scenes, it's all moot.
Your hypothetical is not even in the same ballpark as the Cam Newton situation. Cam has admitted in more than one interview that Rev. Cecil alone made the decision that Cam would go to Auburn, which circumstantially (given what we know about Cecil's solicitation from MSU) appears that Rev. Cecil got something from Auburn in exchange for delivering Cam.
I would think that Auburn's best argument would have been if Cam signed with Auburn against his father's wishes. Then it would appear that Cecil got nothing from Auburn.
All this circumstantial evidence against Auburn is probably not enough to penalize them. To me, the smoking gun against Auburn is the alleged tape (where Cam states Auburn paid more). Unless the tape or some other direct evidence of payment or solicitation by Cam and/or Cecil emerges, Auburn is in the clear.
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:38 am to OPR
Do you really think that the son had no clue what the father was doing?
I think most reasonable people would think otherwise.
That said, it might be refreshing to admit we all want Auburn's season to go down in flames over this before the SEC title game, because we want to be 12 - 0 and headed to Atlanta instead.
That doesn't mean we are wrong to want this or that Auburn should not pay the price - but every school has this sort of thing going on to some extent.
The only times these things come out is when people can't keep quiet, or the circumstances are so brazen, such as has occurred with the father here.
I think most reasonable people would think otherwise.
That said, it might be refreshing to admit we all want Auburn's season to go down in flames over this before the SEC title game, because we want to be 12 - 0 and headed to Atlanta instead.
That doesn't mean we are wrong to want this or that Auburn should not pay the price - but every school has this sort of thing going on to some extent.
The only times these things come out is when people can't keep quiet, or the circumstances are so brazen, such as has occurred with the father here.
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