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Ok...Who supports a "BCS PLUS-1" weekend scenario???
Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:38 am
Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:38 am
A "BCS Plus-1" weekend would be the last chance qualifier for teams of weaker conferences and to satisfy the BCS GOD's.
Rules;
#1 Must be ranked in the top 4 after all conference championships have been decided.
#2 BCS will rank all conferences by number to determine their weight in the final 4 match up.
Take the top 4 ranked teams at the end of the season just before final bowl predictions are made. From this final 4, the two biggest weighing conferences would play against the smaller two to decide who plays in the National Championship.
Example: If the season washes out to be...
#1 Auburn SEC weighing factor =1
#2 Oregon PAC10 weighing factor =3
#3 Boise WAC weighing factor =4
#4 LSU SEC weighing factor =1
Take #1 Auburn/ flip a coin to choose which lessor conference team they will play Oregon or Boise. LSU would play the other team by default.
(I think it's better to flip the coin and not use the computer because that is where we are now)
The winners of these 2 games play for the National Championship and the losers will play in the Sugar Bowl.
This would not take away money from the existing Bowl games and we all know that's the reason they won't go to a playoff system like the NFL.
Thought's.........

Rules;
#1 Must be ranked in the top 4 after all conference championships have been decided.
#2 BCS will rank all conferences by number to determine their weight in the final 4 match up.
Take the top 4 ranked teams at the end of the season just before final bowl predictions are made. From this final 4, the two biggest weighing conferences would play against the smaller two to decide who plays in the National Championship.
Example: If the season washes out to be...
#1 Auburn SEC weighing factor =1
#2 Oregon PAC10 weighing factor =3
#3 Boise WAC weighing factor =4
#4 LSU SEC weighing factor =1
Take #1 Auburn/ flip a coin to choose which lessor conference team they will play Oregon or Boise. LSU would play the other team by default.
(I think it's better to flip the coin and not use the computer because that is where we are now)
The winners of these 2 games play for the National Championship and the losers will play in the Sugar Bowl.
This would not take away money from the existing Bowl games and we all know that's the reason they won't go to a playoff system like the NFL.
Thought's.........
Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:47 am to MY2Cents
I didn't read the whole thing, but if it's like the normal plus 1 idea, I like it.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:47 am to MY2Cents
It is a start. I would like to see a 12 team playoff similar to the NFL and every conference have a mandatory championship game.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 11:48 am to MY2Cents
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#1 Auburn SEC weighing factor =1
#2 Oregon PAC10 weighing factor =3
#3 Boise WAC weighing factor =4
#4 LSU SEC weighing factor =1
Why would LSU be above TCU?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:12 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
For that matter, why Boise over TCU?
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:18 pm to MY2Cents
I like it but one thing I would change is that when there are two teams from the same conference in the final four, they should automatically play one another in the semis. That would help maintain nationwide interest in the championship game.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:18 pm to MY2Cents
JMO
The plus 1 is a better idea for years where two of the candidates haven't already had a chance to play
If Auburn is eligible and finishes ranked higher - they beat LSU fair and square and LSU should not be in a four team playoff against them
The plus 1 is a better idea for years where two of the candidates haven't already had a chance to play
If Auburn is eligible and finishes ranked higher - they beat LSU fair and square and LSU should not be in a four team playoff against them
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:25 pm to DocBugbear
I think you force everyone into a conference of 16. I allow 8 teams to move up to D1. that is 8 conferences of 16 teams. every conference split into 2 divisions and must have a conference championship. then the conference champ of each division goes into the 8 team play off seated according to the BCS. first round of play offs are 4 "BCS" bowl games then the next 2 games are "BCS" Bowl games, then the champ game. the BCS winner would play 16 games instead of 14 games (assuming the conferences that currently have conference champ game.) you are looking at adding only 2 games to the BSCNC teams. everyone should then be happy. then the other 20something bowls can still function outside of the 8 conference champ teams. and to keep the money fair for BCS Bowls you have to add 2 BCS bowls and you make it a circular rotation like it use to be for which bowls are at which level of the play offs.
Then the regular season would still matter (especially if you have "even" conferences) and if makes everything fair..er. I think that would be the best system and look forward to seeing something similar happening if the BCSNC this year ends up (somehow) Boise v TCU
Then the regular season would still matter (especially if you have "even" conferences) and if makes everything fair..er. I think that would be the best system and look forward to seeing something similar happening if the BCSNC this year ends up (somehow) Boise v TCU
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:28 pm to The Rodfather
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I think you force everyone into a conference of 16.
no one who is a fan of a major conference like the SEC should be in favor of that
The conferences being different and receiving different levels of attention is a good thing if your conference is the best and you get as much or more press than anyone else
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:47 pm to molsusports
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The conferences being different and receiving different levels of attention is a good thing if your conference is the best and you get as much or more press than anyone else
i guarantee more people will bitch about another arbitrary number dictating the best. the playoff will not satisfy everyone, but there will be less people fighting it. you can't make everyone happy, so you should do what would make most
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:49 pm to The Rodfather
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i guarantee more people will bitch about another arbitrary number dictating the best
help me out on this... what do you mean?
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the playoff will not satisfy everyone,
no it won't... it will make a lot of passionate football fans like me unhappy if you have the typical garbage playoff system where teams with a bunch of losses and shitty schedules are eligible
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:05 pm to molsusports
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help me out on this... what do you mean?
from what i could understand, you were in favor of each conference being associated with a number that would dictate who they would play in the plus-1, that number would result in the same situation we have now where people feel as though the BCS # doesn't justly dictate where a team should be ranked, that it is 2/3 decided based on voter's opinions. the same thing would happen with the "conference ranking" so people would still feel as though they are shafted. that is why i would be in favor of the conference champs being in a 8-team play off. if you have a shitty w-l ration but you won your conference (which consists of 16 teams) you did so because you faired the best against the 8 in your division plus the "best" from the other division. and if they go on to win the NC that means they again did it 3 weeks in a row against the "best" from 3 other conferences. then you could always put in the stipulation "if a team doesn't have 7 or 8 (you pick) wins but somehow wins their conference championship, if there is another team from the conference with a better overall record (and there is no "heads-up loss" against the conf. champ) then that team would proceed. but i would guarantee that would just about never have to happen. when was the last time a team with only 7 wins won their conference (in one of the big conferences, don't come at me with the WAC or conf USA)
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:17 pm to The Rodfather
I'm too tired to wade through that entire run-on paragraph sentence by sentence
but all the ideas that start with changing conference makeup to be mega-conferences or all roughly equal in some way are probably non-starters anyway
ESPN and CBS are paying the SEC big television dollars because the SEC is unusual... there's no way the SEC would willingly go along with any system that brought them back to the pack
but all the ideas that start with changing conference makeup to be mega-conferences or all roughly equal in some way are probably non-starters anyway
ESPN and CBS are paying the SEC big television dollars because the SEC is unusual... there's no way the SEC would willingly go along with any system that brought them back to the pack
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:47 pm to MY2Cents
This scenario is to get rid of the smaller conferences argument that they should be considered for the National Championship. So if and when you get an undefeated Boise or TCU fortunate enough to end the season ranked in the top 4 they would have to prove themselves once more with the plus 1 weekend.
My final 4 results were hypothetical and adding only one more weekend would not take away money from CBS or ESPN because each of them could cover one of these two games.
My final 4 results were hypothetical and adding only one more weekend would not take away money from CBS or ESPN because each of them could cover one of these two games.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:53 pm to MY2Cents
Leave it alone. You need one week between games. You have a hundred teams. BCS is best, but not perfect.
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:56 pm to MY2Cents
It's a step in the right direction, but I favor a full-blown FCS-style playoff system myself.
Think about it, not only would we as fans get see highly-ranked teams or to go the away games at stadiums of teams on the schedule, but there would be the chance to see additional highly-ranked teams at home or travel to other stadiums during the playoffs.
For example, Ohio State could come to Tiger Stadium for a winner-take-all game to move on to the next round.
Teams would have to be prepared to face all kinds of weather conditions...just like in the NFL.

Think about it, not only would we as fans get see highly-ranked teams or to go the away games at stadiums of teams on the schedule, but there would be the chance to see additional highly-ranked teams at home or travel to other stadiums during the playoffs.
For example, Ohio State could come to Tiger Stadium for a winner-take-all game to move on to the next round.
Teams would have to be prepared to face all kinds of weather conditions...just like in the NFL.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:58 pm to MY2Cents
BCS games = playoff, obviously 1 v 2 doesnt happen here
Re-rank following the games.
There will still be controversy, but not quite as much as there is now.
No matter what system is in place someone will always get left out...
Re-rank following the games.
There will still be controversy, but not quite as much as there is now.
No matter what system is in place someone will always get left out...
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 2:00 pm
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