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New stiffarmtrophy.com projections have Suh...

Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:22 pm
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22582 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:22 pm
...moving into second place behind Ingram with Gerhart in a dead heat with Suh for the second spot. If the Heisman people say they determine the finalists based on a natural gap in the voting, can somebody explain why Tim Tebow is a finalist and why we don't just have four players in New York?

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Posted by TulaneTigerFan
Seattle
Member since Sep 2005
35856 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:24 pm to
Another undeserving winner. Par for the course
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:25 pm to
No way in hell Suh should win the Heisman.

10 sacks. Four of those in one game.

The Heisman is a joke.
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8415 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 5:27 pm to
there's a reason why Suh has the most 1st place votes and Ingram has the most 2nd
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:00 pm to
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Another undeserving winner. Par for the course
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:00 pm to
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No way in hell Suh should win the Heisman.



Posted by e2drummer
Member since Jun 2009
4221 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:12 pm to
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No way in hell Suh should win the Heisman.

Slap yo'self.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 6:15 pm to
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10 sacks. Four of those in one game.


Do you realize what position he's playing?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:10 pm to
John Copeland and Eric Curry both had 10 sacks playing DL for Alabama in '92.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:12 pm to
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John Copeland and Eric Curry both had 10 sacks playing DL for Alabama in '92.
And?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:15 pm to
We all want to see Teboy cry just one more time.
Posted by Grady
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:15 pm to
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Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:17 pm to
I just don't find it overly impressive when you are playing in a pass happy conference and get four of your 10 sacks in one game. Don't get me wrong, I think he is good, but I don't think he is any more deserving than Ingram or Gerhart is. I think they are all pretty even.
Posted by Grady
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Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:17 pm to
I would rather lose to Suh because Gerhart is not better than Ingram.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:21 pm to
I think that's my problem with everyone dissing Ingram, sure he isn't miles ahead of Suh or Gerhart, but those guys aren't miles ahead of Ingram either.

I think the polls show exactly that.

Ingram 44% chance of winning
Suh 40% chance of winning
Gerhart 40% chance of winning

It's very even, and with the way the Heisman is, a guy on a better team has a better chance of winning. And I think Ingram deserves it as much as the other two.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33211 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 7:56 pm to
I've never understood why there are 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place votes.

Wouldn't it make more sense that the player who most people think is the #1 player in the country to win the Heisman???

why do you get bonus points for having more second place votes than third place votes?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 8:57 pm to
Suh has 12 sacks, not 10 (per ESPN)

quote:

The Heisman is a joke.


Completely agree.
This post was edited on 12/11/09 at 8:58 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73343 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:02 pm to
John Henderson had 13 sacks as a DT in 2000, and he was never mentioned for the Heisman.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91456 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

John Copeland and Eric Curry both had 10 sacks playing DL for Alabama in '92.


And?
they were never in the running for the trophy and they were part of one of the best defenses ever.....
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 12/11/09 at 9:03 pm to
That boy named Suh is a good one.
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