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Alabama's so-called 12 NC Championships

Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Tygersfan in AL
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:32 pm
Below is a interesting read put together by some Auburn Dude. I will say Bama got shafted in 66, but everything before 61 is questionable. To all the Alabama fans who don't act like that I from the bottom of my heart say thank you. You represent your team in a respectable manner which is very appreciated.


"I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama's claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.

To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.

'TWELVE' national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here's a rundown:


1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.


The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current.


1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!


1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!


1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!


1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!


1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .


1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.


1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.


1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.


1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.


1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.


1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.


You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can't find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming twelve.
Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.


At the same time, Auburn could claim at 5 national titles using the Bammer methods.

1913- Auburn went 8-0 and claimed the NC in the Billingsley Poll.

1957-AP national Champions.

1983-Auburn went 11-1, played the nation's toughest schedule, and won the national title in The New York Times, Sagarin, Billingsley, Rothman and College Football Researchers Association

1993-Auburn went 11-0 and won the national title by the National Championship Foundation .

2004- Auburn became only the second team in SEC history to go 13-0. Auburn even beat SEC East champion Tennessee twice. Auburn was awarded the national title by the first People's National Championship Poll, Golf Digest, and The Eufaula Times.

AUBURN only claims the 1957 national title. HOWEVER..IF Alabama can claim some of the ones that they claim, we have ever right to claim the ones above.


Bama...legends in their own minds!

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Posted by TT9
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:33 pm to
germans as frick...congrats....
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:33 pm to
Wow! This has never ever been posted about a dozen times the last 2 or 3 months. Great info!
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:34 pm to
rofl. i look highly forward to all of the love for this n00b.
Posted by nothingbutawinner00
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:34 pm to

Sehr gut doctor.
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:36 pm to
I especially like this unbiased statement in the whole thing though:

quote:

2004- Auburn became only the second team in SEC history to go 13-0.
(following Bama's lead, and oh yeah.. frick Tn, their 98 team was an illusion)

quote:

Auburn was awarded the national title by the first People's National Championship Poll, Golf Digest, and The Eufaula Times.


Break out the John Deere's for a parade.

Posted by gatorprincess815
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:36 pm to
be nice he only has 5 post.
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:37 pm to
I'm not looking forward to all the threads on this topic or "Saban is a liar!" that are about to be started by all the noobs who think these topics hasn't ever before been discussed on this board ad nauseum.
Posted by Dribble
Hey, nice marmot.
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Posted by nothingbutawinner00
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:38 pm to
Dribble, I literally laughed out loud. Classic.
Posted by TT9
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Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:40 pm to
filters
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:41 pm to
is imageshack filtered?
Posted by Alahunter
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:42 pm to
I dunno.. seems anything that is , is filtered here.
Posted by RockyStop
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

be nice he only has 5 post.


even more of a reason to frick with him
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:42 pm to
it was the vanilla ice dancer with Hitlers head on him...
Posted by Tygersfan in AL
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:43 pm to
Thank you for the compliment Mrs. Tebow
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:43 pm to
It must be football season, the casual fans are coming out.
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:44 pm to
over/under on this new dude's age? i got 16. takers?
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 8/21/09 at 8:45 pm to



is it filtered?
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