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re: College Baseball Scholarships 11.7?

Posted on 6/15/09 at 12:27 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 12:27 pm to
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Football takes up a majority of mens schollies and they have to even it out.


True, but that still doesn't explain why deadweight men's sports like water polo exist. Why not sacrifice those for the sake of baseball?
Posted by adamsjh
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 8:04 am to
Those sports pretty much only exist at non-football schools. With those 85 scholarships missing at those schools, the school has to fill the void with something. So you can't cut them and add to baseball, because that makes the numbers not work for football schools. Remember, the school itself doesn't control the amount of scholarships it can give. This is all controlled by governing bodies like the NCAA. And Title IX makes sure that there are an even number of scholarships available to men and women at a given institution. So since football takes up 85, other mens sports suffer to makes things even with women sports.
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 6/29/09 at 12:32 pm to
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True, but that still doesn't explain why deadweight men's sports like water polo exist. Why not sacrifice those for the sake of baseball?


Yeah, it would seem like a deal could be worked out. The SEC plays very few of the 88 (or whatever) sports approved by the NCAA. It is, after all, a pain in the arse to run all the bullshite sports that they do in places like Stanford and UCLA. Still, why can't the SEC just add an additional female sport, and then strike some deal with the NCAA? It's obvious that somebody is being incredibly obstinate.

The hockey thing is pretty unusual, as it is truly a regional sport (unlike baseball), and thus only pertains to about 8 major sports programs: Wisconsin, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Ohio State, Boston College, Connecticut, & Notre Dame.

For these 8 schools, hockey is a major sport on par with basketball.

Then again, in the SEC, we're almost to the point where you can say that 6 of the schools are "baseball #2" schools (LSU, Ole Miss, SCAR, MSU, Auburn, & Arkansas), where annual baseball attendance usually outpaces basketball attendance.

Really, I think there's almost a paradoxical situation where baseball is given too few scholarships, for the very reason that it's played in so many schools out of long-standing traditions.

All 6 major conferences have at least 10 baseball teams (Syracuse, Wisconsin, Iowa State, & Colorado, are the only major schools in the country that don't play), and if the NCAA upped the scholarship allowance, baseball would be cut at a few more schools who are already on the fence about whether they should be playing baseball or not.

Ironically, then, baseball gets lower average attendance than it would, for the very same reason that allows it to be played at over 300 D1 schools (perhaps more than it really should).

So, in a way, it's just a Catch-22.

But only to a certain extent. I still side with Ron Polk on this--in the general scheme of things, the NCAA scholarship limit for baseball is totally fricking ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure that the 12 teams in the SEC alone topped the top 12 teams in the nation in hockey in terms of annual attendance this year, and that no sport can touch baseball's attendance for the playoffs, which was over 800k this year (and only basketball generates more playoffs revenue).
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