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Why Do Some Coaches Excel Jumping From Mid Major to Power 4 But Others Wilt?
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:03 am
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:03 am
Several SEC coaches have had as much, or more, success at the P4 level than the mid major level. Examples include
Winning Percentage
Rick Barnes
George Mason: .667
Providence: .587
Clemson: .607
Texas: .691
Tennessee: .682
Todd Golden
San Francisco: .613
Florida: .715
Nate Oats
Buffalo: .691
Alabama: .700
These three all maintained or improved when they moved up and became p4 coaches. But some regress.
Matt McMahon
Murray State: .695
LSU: .462
Will Wade
Chattanooga: .615
VCU: .718
LSU: .673
McNeese: .847
NC State: .588
Why do some coaches seem to be much more successful mid-major coaches? Style? Lack of support? Culture?
Winning Percentage
Rick Barnes
George Mason: .667
Providence: .587
Clemson: .607
Texas: .691
Tennessee: .682
Todd Golden
San Francisco: .613
Florida: .715
Nate Oats
Buffalo: .691
Alabama: .700
These three all maintained or improved when they moved up and became p4 coaches. But some regress.
Matt McMahon
Murray State: .695
LSU: .462
Will Wade
Chattanooga: .615
VCU: .718
LSU: .673
McNeese: .847
NC State: .588
Why do some coaches seem to be much more successful mid-major coaches? Style? Lack of support? Culture?
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:07 am
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Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:07 am to captdalton
OP is extremely LSU OBSESSED!!!
You need help.
You need help.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:08 am to SouthernInsanity
I swear the LsU fanbase is broken. He’s presenting facts and instead of disputing or countering you cry “obsessed!” to avoid acknowledging he has a point.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:09 am to SouthernInsanity
Why do you think some coaches make the jump from mid-major to power 4 successfully while others struggle?
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:10 am to AHM21
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acknowledging he has a point.
You seem triggered. Maybe because LSU fired a guy that won the same number of nattys ad Oats this year.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:11 am to SouthernInsanity
Triggered and obsessed as you deflect and dodge.
You got too much coonass in you
You got too much coonass in you
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:12 am to captdalton
Some things are meant to be until the time is right. Like saban and his jump to the NFL... wasn't meant to be.
Like you being an LSU fan, just isn't gonna work.
Like you being an LSU fan, just isn't gonna work.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:14 am to AHM21
They are the biggest bunch of little girls, hence why I call them Little Sis U. They obsesses over anything Bama but mention LSU, on what they call an LSU board and you're "Obsessed".
LSU fans act like a bunch of left wing Karen's on here. Their leader is a tranny anyhow so it makes sense.
LSU fans act like a bunch of left wing Karen's on here. Their leader is a tranny anyhow so it makes sense.
This post was edited on 3/29/26 at 11:15 am
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:19 am to SouthernInsanity
Okay, so let’s take a non-SEC coach as an example, since you seem so hurt.
Archie Miller
Dayton: 139–63 (.688) 68–34 (.667)
Indiana: 67–58 (.536) 33–44 (.429)
Archie Miller
Dayton: 139–63 (.688) 68–34 (.667)
Indiana: 67–58 (.536) 33–44 (.429)
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:23 am to Radio One
Anthony Grant
VCU - 76-25 (.752)
Alabama - 117-85 (.579)
Dayton - 197-95 (.675)
VCU - 76-25 (.752)
Alabama - 117-85 (.579)
Dayton - 197-95 (.675)
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:38 am to AHM21
I get the feeling that southerninsanity is not really interested in the subject, he just wanted an excuse to be a victim.
Mark Gottfried is an interesting example - he had a steady downward trajectory.
Murray State: .739
Alabama: .616
NC State: .589
Cal State Northridge: .420
I would not want to hire a Murray State coach. Mick Cronin is a solid coach. But he hasn’t produced results like UCLA really wants.
Mick Cronin
Murray State: .742
Cincinnati: .668
UCLA: .681
Mark Gottfried is an interesting example - he had a steady downward trajectory.
Murray State: .739
Alabama: .616
NC State: .589
Cal State Northridge: .420
I would not want to hire a Murray State coach. Mick Cronin is a solid coach. But he hasn’t produced results like UCLA really wants.
Mick Cronin
Murray State: .742
Cincinnati: .668
UCLA: .681
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:45 am to Tua_2_Smitty
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but mention LSU
Your BOY the OP doesn't mention LSU... he goes out of his way to do so. Repeatedly starting threads about a team you hate isn't mentioning them... it's an obsession.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:47 am to SouthernInsanity
It’s all interpretation and it seems like you losing your shite shows OP has a point.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:58 am to AHM21
If that's me losing my shite.... you must be softer than Will Wade's handshake.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 11:58 am to AHM21
Looking at their records, VCU and Murray State have had a lot of coaches who won >70% of their games. A lot of their coaches were the hot name in coaching searches. Rarely were they able to have the same level of success at subsequent stops. Since the early 90s.
Murray State coaches - Murray vs. next job.
Steve Edgar: .664 at Murray, .345 at Duquesne
Mark Gottfried: .738 at Murray, .616 at Alabama
Tevester Andereon: .660 at Murray, .467 at Jackson State
Mick Cronin: .742 at Murray, .686 at Cincinnati
Billy Kennedy: .669 at Murray, .566 at Texas A&M
Steve Prohn: .782 at Murray (first time), .505 at Iowa State
Matt McMahon: .695 at Murray, ..462 at LSU
None of them were able to equal their success at Murray.
After McMahon left, Murray State rehired Jeff Prohm. He has won .464 of games in his second stint.
Murray State coaches - Murray vs. next job.
Steve Edgar: .664 at Murray, .345 at Duquesne
Mark Gottfried: .738 at Murray, .616 at Alabama
Tevester Andereon: .660 at Murray, .467 at Jackson State
Mick Cronin: .742 at Murray, .686 at Cincinnati
Billy Kennedy: .669 at Murray, .566 at Texas A&M
Steve Prohn: .782 at Murray (first time), .505 at Iowa State
Matt McMahon: .695 at Murray, ..462 at LSU
None of them were able to equal their success at Murray.
After McMahon left, Murray State rehired Jeff Prohm. He has won .464 of games in his second stint.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:00 pm to captdalton
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he just wanted an excuse to be a victim.
LOLOLOLOL LOLOLOLOL... bruh, don't be pussy. Sorry, you've achieved that.
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:00 pm to captdalton
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Why Do Some Coaches Excel Jumping From Mid Major to Power 4 But Others Wilt?
Why do some coaches (Brian Kelly and Kellen DeBoer) regress after taking jobs at bigger schools in tougher conferences and other coaches improve?
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:08 pm to SouthernInsanity
You started this bullshite by crying obsessed and triggered all while being a whiny bitch 
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:14 pm to captdalton
I suspect that the whole landscape of college basketball will change with the portal and NIL. They all may become mid majors or they may all become high competition for all of the P4s. They may let special players play for 8 years like the kid at Ole Miss/
Posted on 3/29/26 at 12:18 pm to SouthernInsanity
Live look at southerninsanity in this thread.
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