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Why doesn’t Division 2 playoffs

Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Bamafig
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:10 pm
include two token Division 3 teams?
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 4:10 pm to
DEI hasn't made it to that level yet.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 5:37 pm to
Division III teams aren't in D-II. G5 teams ARE in FBS.

Oh yeah, conference champs get autobids in D-II.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 3:52 am to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 4:03 am to
But they're right though.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5982 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 6:49 am to
See above


The point is, since you missed it, is that no true championship competition should have to include non-deserving teams, for whatever reason. The UFL or CFL champion does not belong in the NFL playoffs simply because they are a professional football league. Maybe someone else can explain it to you like a five year old, as they say.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:16 am to
is that no true championship competition should have to include non-deserving teams


So your point is teams in d1 aren’t deserving right out the gate bc some dipshit arm chair qb like you says so? That’s a stupid point and you’re an idiot. Either separate or shut your Paul finebaum jr arse up.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5982 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:21 am to
You should go pawn your trailer and bet on James Madison to win the trophy
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:44 am to
quote:

The point is, since you missed it, is that no true championship competition should have to include non-deserving teams, for whatever reason.


Tulane and JMU are deserving. They won their conferences.

Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3380 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:45 am to
You should sit around like the fatty fupa puss your mom raised and quit gate keeping actual athletes
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61690 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:49 am to
quote:

So your point is teams in d1 aren’t deserving right out the gate bc some dipshit arm chair qb like you says so? That’s a stupid point and you’re an idiot. Either separate or shut your Paul finebaum jr arse up.


In fairness, are you saying you think Tulane and James Madison deserve to be in the playoffs?

Many would also argue that Clemson, SMU, Arizona State and Boise did not belong last year. It's not because they are smaller schools. It's because they are not as good. Now, if they beat Oregon and/or Ole Miss you might have a point.

I can't wrap my head around why people want to include teams who cannot compete in the playoffs.
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:53 am to
Lol I had to look up the fupa acronym..



( Some of you Bama posters seem really angry - just an observation )


Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 12/19/25 at 7:59 am to
quote:

Why doesn’t Division 2 playoffs include two token Division 3 teams?


Are you really talking about Division II, or are you thinking about FCS?

If you are talking about FCS, here is their playoff criteria:

quote:


The NCAA Division I Football Championship provides for a field of 24 teams to compete in a single elimination tournament. Of the 24 teams, 10 conference champions will receive automatic qualifications with the remaining best 14 teams being selected on an at-large basis by the Division I Football Championship Committee. The top eight teams in the 24-team bracket for the championship are seeded and receive First Round byes.


So, instead of picking 12 teams out of the 136 FBS teams (as FBS does), FCS takes 24 out of 129 FCS teams.

There are 11 automatic bids for conference champions. So, if FBS were to do this, your automatic bids would have been (9 conference champions):

Indiana (Big-10), Georgia (SEC), Texas Tech (Big-12), Duke (ACC), Kennesaw State (CUSA), James Madison (Sun Belt), Tulane (American Athletic), Boise State (Mountain West), Washington State (Pac-12).

That would leave 15 at-large bids, which would be decided based on:
quote:

Quality Wins: Winning against Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) teams is a significant factor.
Strength of Schedule: A tougher schedule (more DI, strong conference opponents) is favored.
Head-to-Head: Direct wins against other playoff contenders matter.
Common Opponents: Comparing results against shared rivals.
NCAA SRS: The Simple Rating System provides a data-driven comparison.
FCS Coaches Poll: Input from the coaches' rankings is considered.
Overall Record: A strong win-loss record is fundamental.


So, the at large bids would have likely been something like this:
10. Ohio State
11. Oregon
12. Notre Dame
13. Ole Miss
14. aTm
15. Miami
16. Utah
17. Vandy
18. Oklahoma
19. Alabama
20. Iowa
21. USC
22. Washington
23. BYU
24. Texas

So, the FCS is actually much more wide open than the FBS process for letting smaller schools have higher seeds. What we have isn't great...but this would be crazy.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5982 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:00 am to
So the other FBS conference champions are not deserving? How many teams do you want in this football invitational?
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3628 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:08 am to
quote:

So the other FBS conference champions are not deserving? How many teams do you want in this football invitational?


I'd rather see conference champs than teams that finished 4th and 5th in their conferences.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
5982 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:14 am to
Ok. Well you enjoy that riveting Oregon vs JMU tomorrow night. I’m sure I can find something more exciting to do.

Don’t complain when playoff expansion must include HBCU teams as well.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3628 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:26 am to
The current D-II has a 32-team field on a "super regional" basis, with four SRs.

If a conference has six or more teams and plays the required number of D-II games, the conference champ is guaranteed a spot in the playoffs. The regional rankings are determined via a formula that takes strength of schedule into account.

The four SR champions make the semi-finals.

Most D-II teams play a 10-game regular season, but some work in an 11th game.

Prior to this year, the field was 28 teams with the #1 team in each SR getting a bye.

Prior to that, it was a 24 team field. Before that it was a 16 team field.

When you keep arguing over who missed the playoffs, they get expanded, but then the same arguments take place.

Y'all want to scream "DEI football", prior to this season, D-II had a rule called "earned access" that was really a mess.
Posted by New Money
Athens, GA
Member since Jun 2023
3628 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Don’t complain when playoff expansion must include HBCU teams as well.


Been there, done that in D-II. It was called "earned access". That rule was replaced with autobids for conference champs and an expanded field.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28006 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 8:29 am to
The G5 is involved in the playoff for one reason and one reason alone. Anti trust lawsuits.

The p4 needs to just subsidize their own playoff. It’ll likely make money and actually be entertaining and give them a chance at a trophy they can actually win.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3380 posts
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:34 am to
I can't wrap my head around why people want to include teams who cannot compete in the playoffs.

Are they D 1? Did they win their games? I can’t wrap my head around guys sitting on their couch gatekeeping athletes who work their arse. If it’s so obvious separate from the inferiors. Til then sit your arse on the couch like you’ve done all year and pipe down.
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