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If Jackson Arnold played for Deboer and Ryan Grubb

Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 pm
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 pm
How much better would he be as a QB? Could they turn him into a serious NFL prospect or is there just no hope for the guy?
Posted by Rip N Lip
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Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:01 pm to
He would still hold the ball too long.

Grubb stayed in Seattle last year because he didn’t want to coach a QB who could not read the field in Jalen Milroe. Doubt he could do better with Arnold.

Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:04 pm to
Just seems like Arnold has talent. He needs a good OC that could teach him how to play QB.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:05 pm to
I think if they had him for 2-3 years he would be a stud. Simpson is noticeably better.

If the question is would he be better under Deboer and Grubb than he was/is under Venables and Freeze, then respectfully it’s a dumb question. Venables is a defensive guy and Freeze is a glorified high school coach
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:06 pm to
Hugh is supposed to be an offensive guru so they say.
Posted by threedog79
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:10 pm to
quote:

Hugh is supposed to be an offensive guru so they say.


He is offensive for sure.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5704 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:11 pm to
lol. Well all the talking heads could not talk him up enough at one time.
Posted by TampaTiger87
Member since Jan 2024
300 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:17 pm to
No, OU ..eeerrr Brent Venables ruined him. Put the world on his shoulders, and entered the SEC as red shirt frosh, without a single experienced QB on the roster, and a lazy hire in Seth Luttrell as OC..and dude got blasted, and benched, and blamed. Now...he just there, and can't function when needed the most. Waste of a 5 star to me. I hope I'm wrong, I hope he goes to a TX school in the BIGXII, and is reborn runnin n gunnin..but I think he's done in the SEC. This Arky game is the best medicine he will ever get, prolly the biggest of his career.
Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:21 pm to
I still don't know if I'm sold on Grubb tbh
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5704 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:22 pm to
I don’t know much about the guy. I don’t know how much eligibility he has left. He certainly needs to find a spot with a team that can develop QB’s. He has talent. It just looks like the guy has never played QB a day in his life though. He certainly doesn’t need to waste to much more time at Auburn.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:26 pm to
He has been a pretty good OC to me. He does have a few moments in a game where he calls a play or two that makes you wonder at times. Overall though I think he has done a great job so far this season.
Posted by Mediocre
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:54 pm to
Didn’t hughey beat us with bro Wallace? I’m sure he’s getting what anyone could out of Arnold.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
5704 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 11:58 pm to
He beat us with Wallace the first time and then Chad Kelly the next season I think. The second game with Chad Kelly probably doesn’t happen without one of the most flukiest plays in college football history though.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 1:27 am to
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Didn’t hughey beat us with bro Wallace?

Treadwell and the Ole Miss defense had a lot to do with those wins as well. Can't pin it all on Hugh's offensive "genius."

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I’m sure he’s getting what anyone could out of Arnold.

Arnold is a worse Milroe. He'll need a Bo Nix at Oregon or Jalen Hurts at OU type situation to become a decent QB.
Posted by Frostynips1
Member since Feb 2022
166 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:15 am to
Treadwell and the Ole Miss defense had a lot to do with those wins as well. Can't pin it all on Hugh's offensive "genius."

Honestly that’s pretty disingenuous I’m certain that happened twice back to back. Maybe he had some good teams.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
1743 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 3:59 am to
Grubb has a great feel on passing attack but his running calls are very primitive. Ty accuracy is saving him many times after Grubb has wasted a few plays on low % running plays.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 4:00 am
Posted by TommyM
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:41 am to
Yeah, the running game being entirely dependent on whether or not Jam Miller is healthy is my biggest concern, followed by what seems like a tendency to go into a shell when he has a second half lead. But maybe those aren't entirely his fault.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19808 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 4:46 am to
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He would still hold the ball too long. Grubb stayed in Seattle last year because he didn’t want to coach a QB who could not read the field in Jalen Milroe. Doubt he could do better with Arnold.

Arnold is a less talented Jalen Milroe with less upside.

It would still be a disaster particularly paired with a questionable run blocking OL.

I’d be planning alternate ways to spend my Saturdays after watching “The Jalen Milroe” experience the last two years.
Posted by Wishbone85
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:43 am to
Doesn't Hugh only call first down plays? You cant really blame him for second and third down lol.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9474 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:33 am to
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Grubb stayed in Seattle last year because he didn’t want to coach a QB who could not read the field in Jalen Milroe. Doubt he could do better with Arnold


Agreed. Definitely wasn’t staying for that nfl thing
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