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Congrat's SEC Swimming & Diving Champions - Texas Men and Women!

Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:57 am
Posted by bigDgator
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 4:57 am
Gabrielsen Natatorium • Athens, GA
Championship Central


SCHEDULE
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 17
12 p.m. Prelims: Women's 1-meter
2:10 p.m. Consolation Finals: Women's 1-meter
5:10 p.m. Finals: Women's 1-meter

TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 18
12 p.m. Prelims: Men's 3-meter
2:10 p.m. Consolation Finals: Men's 3-meter
5 p.m. Finals: 200 Medley Relay, Men's 3-meter, 800 Freestyle Relay

WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 19
9:30 a.m. Prelims: 500 Freestyle, 200 IM, 50 Freestyle
12 p.m. Prelims: Women's 3-meter
2:10 p.m. Consolation Finals: Women's 3-meter
5:30 p.m. Finals: 200 Freestyle Relay, 500 Freestyle, 200 IM, 50 Freestyle, Women's 3-meter

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 20
9:30 a.m. Prelims: 400 IM, 100 Butterfly, 200 Freestyle
12 p.m. Prelims: Men's 1-meter
2:10 p.m. Consolation Finals: Men's 1-meter
5:30 p.m. Finals: 400 IM, 100 Butterfly, 200 Freestyle, Women's 1-meter

FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 21
9:30 a.m. Prelims: 200 Butterfly, 100 Backstroke, 100 Breaststroke
11:30 a.m. Prelims: Women's Platform
1:40 p.m. Consolation Finals: Women's Platform
5:30 p.m. Finals: 200 Butterfly, 100 Backstroke, 100 Breaststroke, Women's Platform, 400 Medley Relay

SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 22
9:30 a.m. Prelims: 200 Backstroke, 100 Freestyle, 200 Breaststroke
11:30 a.m. Prelims: Men's Platform
1:40 p.m. Consolation Finals: Men's Platform
2:30 p.m. Finals: 1,650 Freestyle (early heats)
5 p.m. Finals: 1,650 Freestyle, 200 Backstroke, 100 Freestyle, 200 Breaststroke, Men's Platform, 400 Freestyle Relay

This post was edited on 2/22/25 at 8:59 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45914 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:11 am to
Rankings

Division I Men
Rank Prev Team Points Record
1 1 Texas 400 8-0
2 2 Indiana 373 5-1
3 3 California 372 5-1
4 4 Arizona State 359 10-1
5 5 NC State 325 4-3
6 6 Florida 325 4-4
7 7 Georgia 296 5-3
8 8 Tennessee 293 2-3
9 9 Stanford 269 1-1
10 10 Michigan 259 4-1
11 11 Louisville 245 6-1
12 12 Virginia Tech 208 8-1
13 14 Ohio State 202 5-1
14 13 North Carolina 188 4-1
15 15 Auburn 188 4-1
16 16 Southern California 167 2-2
17 17 Texas A&M 141 3-2
18 21 Florida State 136 3-4
19 19 Alabama 100 2-2
20 18 Virginia 89 0-6 2
21 20 Georgia Tech 69 5-1
22 NR Louisiana State 60 8-3
23 24 Princeton 53 10-1
24 NR Minnesota 31 6-3
25 22 Kentucky 13 4-3

Division I Women
Rank Prev Team Points Record
1 1 Virginia 425 6-0
2 2 Texas 408 7-1
3 3 Stanford 391 5-0
4 5 Tennessee 370 5-1
5 4 Florida 348 6-2
6 8 California 342 4-2
7 6 Indiana 312 4-3
8 7 NC State 301 5-2
8 10 Louisville 300 5-0
10 7 Michigan 288 5-1
11 11 Georgia 241 5-4
12 14 Southern California 235 3-2
13 12 Wisconsin 226 6-1
14 13 Ohio State 212 6-1
17 North Carolina 176 2-3
16 15 Alabama 165 3-2
17 17 Arizona State 157 6-2
18 18 South Carolina 121 5-1
19 21 Auburn 117 4-4
20 20 Louisiana State 96 8-3
21 21 Texas A&M 94 5-2
22 23 Duke 76 4-2
22 UCLA 51 3-5
24 24 Minnesota 44 8-3
25 25 Florida State 28 7-3
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:21 am to
Who's gonna finish in 2nd?
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
457 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:39 am to
This is the first year since Reese retired correct?

Yeah very likely our dominance continues
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17278 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

This is the first year since Reese retired correct?

Yeah very likely our dominance continues

I don't watch it or follow it other than reading an article here or there.. but I've read that Bob Bowman has an incredible team, especially the guys.

Eddie Reese's run will never be matched.

45 Consecutive Conference Championship's - Men's
(1980-2024)

15 National Championship's - Men's

37 Conference Championship's - Women's

9 National Championship's - Women's

That's just ridiculous.
Posted by TexasWranglers
Member since Sep 2024
457 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 9:59 am to
Its nuts, I wonder if anything else has matched it?

Honestly Bill Self at KU dominance of the Big 12 was pretty amazing and I am sure there are other examples, but for any sport what Reese did was unbelievable.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
45914 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 11:01 am to
I was hoping to give you frickos a run for your money, but we have sucked thus far this season. Lost to FSU for the first time in men's and women's ever.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1425 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:34 pm to
Through day 3

Men
Texas- 505
Florida- 421.5
Tennessee- 327.5
Georgia- 309
Texas A&M- 264
LSU- 237
Alabama- 225
Auburn- 199
Kentucky- 176
South Carolina- 152
Missouri- 128
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1425 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:34 pm to
Women

Texas- 677
Tennessee- 381
Florida- 369
Georgia- 322.5
South Carolina- 273
Texas A&M- 268
LSU- 248
Alabama- 236
Auburn- 180.5
Missouri- 177
Kentucky- 163
Arkansas- 135
Vanderbilt- 86
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
1425 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

Eddie Reese's run will never be matched.



This is true, but he wasn’t the woman’s coach. Give some credit to Mark Schubert and those before him for the success of the ladies.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

Its nuts, I wonder if anything else has matched it?


Google John McDonnell at Arkansas track.
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2005 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:43 am to
Why do they only swim in half the pool?
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17278 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:59 am to
I don't know exactly how this event is scored, but this is a good example of why Texas is so hard to beat.

Florida finished 1st - let's say 8 points

Texas finished 2nd, 3rd, 7th & 8th which is 16 points, double of Florida's
Points = 7 + 6 + 2 + 1 = 16 points

This may not be the exact scoring, but it's something like this..
Posted by Wanruningchen
Member since Jan 2024
1696 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:11 am to
Another example posted by Gators Swimming & Diving

Texas #1, 2 and 8

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Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19576 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:17 am to
You get 9 points for first place, then its 7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Relays are doubled.

You are right - Texas is just racking up points in the middle. That's how championships are won. Win the relays + 2-3 scorers in most events and you are hard to beat.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19576 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:19 am to
quote:

Why do they only swim in half the pool?



High school and collegiate swimming in the United States is done in 25-yard pools instead of the Olympic 50-meter pool. It was done this way to allow for more locations to train and compete (Way cheaper to build a 25-yard pool than a 50-meter pool)

UGA has a 50-meter pool that is just divided with a temporary wall to set up the 25 yard distance.

My daughters are/were AA/AAA high school swimmers. My oldest got some low D1 attention but didn't really want to swim in college. My youngest is on the fence. We visit Ouachita Baptist soon.

They just have a 25-yard pool with a 10 yard cool down zone.




This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:23 am
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19576 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:36 am to
The whole dad of a recruited swimmer thing has been interesting:

Three SEC teams have no swimming: State, Ole Miss, Oklahoma
Two SEC teams just have women: Arkansas, Vanderbilt

There is really no mid-major D1 swimming in the SEC footprint - Arkansas-Little Rock is the only team.

There are just a handful of D2 programs: The aforementioned Ouachita, Montevallo, Henderson State, Delta State, West Florida

The SAA sponsors swimming at the D3 level: Rhodes, Sewannee, Millsaps, Centre, etc.

There are a couple of NAIA programs: Loyola NO and William Carey and one JUCO program in Meridian CC

So someone like my daughter who is AA/AAA has limits on whers she can look. SEC swimmers are AAAA with a few AAA with lots of internationals. D2 programs in the South are able to land AAA swimmers because of the lack of mid-major D1s. There's a huge difference in the funding levels of D3 proframs - Centre has a $50 million facility and Millsaps compete at a 50 year old pool with a temporary cover.

The NAIA schools look international first, so the team cultures are sometimes complicated. So you have really good swimmers that don't end up swimming in college. Going to the West Coast, Midwest or Northeast is an option for some, but you are swimming for a low funded program.

Valparaiso, for example, recruited my older daughter. When we went for a visit, they had flyers all over campus trying to recruit anyone with HS swim experience to join the team, no matter how good they were. They had >35 second 50 free swimmers on roster. That wouldn't have made state championships for 10 year olds.

This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:50 am
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
21537 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:44 am to
It's wild. About to go through the same thing. I never really understood some athletes from other sports (womens sports) in particular where some may choose to go D2 or lower if they could have at least made the team for D1. Sometimes they get more money - scholarship and stipend at the D2 level. Some D3 programs are really nice schools and have incredible facilities. Obviously, you have to be really really good to go D1 in anything. However, if you aren't going to play much as a freshman and then get recruited over, you only get 4-5 years left of playing your sport especially if there is no professional level (womens sports especially.
It becomes more about the team, major, school, etc. Being a d1 athlete is a full time job, d2 you can have a litlte fun, d3 - it's not your entire life.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
2005 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

You get 9 points for first place, then its 7-6-5-4-3-2-1

Relays are doubled.

You are right - Texas is just racking up points in the middle. That's how championships are won. Win the relays + 2-3 scorers in most events and you are hard to beat.
Just an observation, but it looks like that more than just the Top 8 score points:

From Swim-Swam, 2025 SEC S&D Championships

Maybe this scoring is just for the Conference Championship?

Event 10 Men 500 Yard Freestyle

Texas got 7 places out of 24 (1, 6, 9,11,13,16,18)

Place - Name - Year - School - Prelims - Finals - Points
1 Maurer, Rex SO Texas 4:11.27 4:07.09PA 32
2 Koski, Tomas S SO UGA 4:09.92 4:08.25PA 28
3 Magahey, Jake M 5Y UGA 4:10.01 4:08.61PA 27
4 Hawke, Charlie SR Alabama-SE 4:10.95 4:09.75PA 26
5 Mitchell, Jake 5Y FLOR-FL 4:11.49 4:10.72 B 25
6 Johnston, David SR Texas 4:10.44 4:10.74 B 24
7 Mathias, Mason SR Auburn-SE 4:11.03 4:15.05 B 23
8 Linscheer, Giov JR FLOR-FL 4:11.03 4:16.30 B 22
9 Carrozza, Coby GS Texas 4:11.65 4:10.70 B 20
10 Hick, Carson J SO Kentucky-KY 4:11.85 4:10.89 B 17
11 Hobson, Luke A SR Texas 4:11.68 4:12.24 B 16
12 Lekic, Jovan SO LSU-LA 4:12.26 4:12.59 B 15
13 Huckabay, Jacks JR Texas 4:14.81 4:13.06 B 14
14 Brown, Eric G JR FLOR-FL 4:14.86 4:13.66 B 13
15 Bonson, Michael GS Auburn-SE 4:14.18 4:17.51 B 12
16 Haskal, Manning JR Texas 4:12.69 4:18.87 B 11
17 Lindholm, Oskar SR FLOR-FL 4:15.05 4:13.47 B 9
18 Lucas, Cooper FR Texas 4:16.13 4:13.77 B 7
19 Sandidge, Levi JR Kentucky-KY 4:16.11 4:15.39 B 6
20 Powe, Sam P JR UGA 4:16.22 4:15.47 B 5
21 Dickey, Trey SR Texas A&M-GU 4:17.28 4:18.10 B 4
22 Corey, Luke T FR FLOR-FL 4:17.66 4:18.42 B 3
23 Fry, Connor C SO South Carolina-S 4:17.47 4:20.50 B 2
24 Davis, Grant M SR Auburn-SE 4:18.24 4:21.25 B 1
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