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College football dynasties

Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:01 pm
There's a pretty solid consensus on this board that it takes 3 national championships to equal a dynasty. The amount of seasons in between titles is a little fuzzy, but I roll with 3 national titles within a span of 7 years, but you can't become a dynasty until the the year after your third national championship (AP national championship). And after that, the three-in-seven clock re-starts. Based on this, Georgia is on the clock for the next four seasons.

Also based on that, it makes you realize how epic the Saban dynasty was at Alabama. Twice as long as the next longest dynasty!


Alabama - 2013-2022

Miami - 1990-1993

Notre Dame - 1948-1952

Oklahoma - 1957

Alabama - 1965-1967

Minnesota - 1941-1942

https://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/research/national-championships.cfm


This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:06 pm to
Does 2009-2012 Alabama get its own dynasty?
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:06 pm to
Your parameters are off. Bryant and Saban were both virtually continuous dynasties, with brief interludes of “mediocrity.” Bryant from ‘61-‘79. Saban from ‘09-‘20. Wallace Wade from ‘25-‘30 counts as well.
Posted by Western_tiger
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:10 pm to
lsu in mid 2000s would have been up there if not for bama
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

Your parameters are off. Bryant and Saban were both virtually continuous dynasties, with brief interludes of “mediocrity.” Bryant from ‘61-‘79. Saban from ‘09-‘20. Wallace Wade from ‘25-‘30 counts as well.



It's all incredibly subjective buddy and it ain't exact science. Feel free to come up with your own. I went with 3 national titles in a span of 7 years, and you can't become a dynasty until after your third title. For example, was anyone calling the Kansas City Chiefs a dynasty last year or the year before that or the year before that?
Posted by ukraine_rebel
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:15 pm to
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Miami - 1990-1993


They like 1 title during that 4 year period
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:19 pm to
3 titles in fairly close proximity seems fair as long as there isn't much in the way of down years mixed in. If a team won a national title, then wen 6-6, then won another national title, then had 3 7-win seasons, then won a third... it might not really feel like it should count.

if UGA wins the title this year, I think that qualifies them as a dynasty from at least 2021-2024. Their one national title miss in that stretch would be a 1-loss season.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:38 pm to
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It's all incredibly subjective buddy and it ain't exact science. Feel free to come up with your own. I went with 3 national titles in a span of 7 years, and you can't become a dynasty until after your third title.


That’s fine, but when you win a NC in ‘61 and end with another one in ‘79 with four more in between, that’s an 18-year dynasty.
Posted by lewis and herschel
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:42 pm to
Since 18 national title game, played for 3 won 2 is enough but if we win it all this year it solidifies it
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:45 pm to
quote:


Since 18 national title game, played for 3 won 2 is enough but if we win it all this year it solidifies it


Nah, I think winning 3 is a minimum for me.

But if UGA did in any time in the next 3 playoffs, that would be fine. Doesn't have to be this year.
Posted by boston vol
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Miami - 1990-1993

They won the title in ‘89 and split with Washington in ‘91. Are you including their title in ‘87?
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:57 pm to
Say what you want, What Bowden and FSU did from 1987 thru 2001 was and is a “Dynasty”!
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

if UGA wins the title this year, I think that qualifies them as a dynasty from at least 2021-2024. Their one national title miss in that stretch would be a 1-loss season.



If Georgia wins this season, we'll be golden for a few years. Chiefs have won 3 in 4, and nobody is about to stop calling them a dynasty if they don't win another one this year or next year.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:04 pm to
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That’s fine, but when you win a NC in ‘61 and end with another one in ‘79 with four more in between, that’s an 18-year dynasty.



That's fine too, but you're talking about 13 straight seasons without a national championship during that stretch. That's a long arse time.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:10 pm to
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If Georgia wins this season, we'll be golden for a few years.


Dynasties always get labeled in retrospect and (in my opinion) always begin and end with a championship.

Bama was really good a couple of times after 2020... but I think at this point we can call their dynasty as lasting from 2009-2020.

That's an incredibly long period for a dynasty and won 6 titles in 12 years which is also incredible. But you don't stretch it until 2021 or 2023 even though they made the championship game in 2021 and the playoff in 2023... you always begin and end with a title.

If UGA wins a title this year, they have a dynasty that lasted from 2021-2024. If they win another one in 2027 it would stretch until then. If they didn't it would end in 2024. If they don't win this year but win next year it would be a dynasty from 2021-2025.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 6:11 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:12 pm to
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Minnesota - 1941-1942


Lmao

2 years doesn't make a dynasty. Neither does one, as you've also included.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:13 pm to
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Alabama - 2013-2022


I understand you are saying the dynasty doesn’t start until after you win 3 NCs but it just looks weird to say the Bama/Saban dynasty started 2013 after the most dominant part of it (3 in 4 years from 2009-2012).
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:13 pm to
Arkansas 1959-1977

Four national championships

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:22 pm to
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Lmao

2 years doesn't make a dynasty. Neither does one, as you've also included.



Bernie Bierman won 5 natties at Minnesota
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88607 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 6:29 pm to
Sweet.

What does that have to do with the 2 years given in op
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