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Max Fried to Yankees

Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 4:56 pm
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BREAKING: Left-hander Max Fried and the New York Yankees are in agreement on a eight-year, $218 million contract, pending physical, sources tell ESPN.
Posted by GoodTalkRuss
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:22 pm to
Can't say im sad to see him go. On paper he looks pretty good, but he had a tendency to get shelled in the post season.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 12/10/24 at 5:38 pm to
8 years for a pitcher in his 30's?

Yeah, good luck Max
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:47 am to
As a Braves fan, I understand the logic of not signing him to a long term contract. But I also acknowledge as a Braves fan that this is just another example of Braves ownership being unwilling to pay players and consistently trying to go on the cheap. It was the same justification for not resigning Freddie Freeman and it will be the same excuse when Ronald Acuna leaves for more money
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 2:24 pm to
The Braves have a top 6 payroll in baseball despite having a bottom third TV deal and they've extended tons of players long-term. They just don't hand out massive deals to guys in their 30s, it's been their M.O. since AA got here. Fried's contract is absurd and the Yankees are desperate. The guy will be 31 on opening day and has had multiple bouts of "forearm tightness" among other injuries the last few seasons. Good luck with all that.

I also don't understand why fans are concerned about extending Acuna at this point. He's under team control through 2028 so he'll be 31 by the time he's a FA again. He's coming off a second ACL tear. Let's worry about the extension stuff when the time comes, he might be a totally different player by that point.
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:02 pm to
The Braves are 8th and are nearly 100 million dollars behind the Mets and Yankees. With the Dodgers new additions, they will be nearly 100 million behind the Dodgers.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 3:23 pm to
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With the Dodgers new additions, they will be nearly 100 million behind the Dodgers.


The Dodgers made about $250M more in TV revenue than the Braves did last season. When the Braves local TV deal gets renegotiated in a few years, I'd expect payroll to go up.
Posted by playmakers in space
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:18 pm to
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The Braves are 8th and are nearly 100 million dollars behind the Mets and Yankees. With the Dodgers new additions, they will be nearly 100 million behind the Dodgers.


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They're not competing with the Dodgers or the NY teams anytime soon when it comes to payroll. No one outside maybe the Red Sox and Cubs are even in that stratosphere as far as revenue is concerned. Their media deals are just on a different level. And Steve Cohen doesn't seem to care how much he spends. He's a pretty big outlier.
Posted by playmakers in space
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Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:25 am to
The Braves have increased payroll every single season since 2018, fwiw. And Antho has said the third tax is nothing for us. I am not saying we're gonna splash this FA season, but the criticism doesn't add up. They keep spending money. just not how you want.
This post was edited on 12/12/24 at 2:27 am
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:14 pm to
I don’t expect them to compete with the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets in payroll. I do however believe that you have to be willing and able to sign the occasional sought after free agent not rely solely on the minor leagues and bargain bin free agency. It’s quite clear they don’t have the starting pitching to compete for a WS title and it’s debatable whether they have the offense any longer either
Posted by playmakers in space
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 1:42 pm to
You were the one that brought up the Dodgers and how far back the Braves were in payroll compared to them. If you don't expect us to compete with them, why did you bring it up?

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It’s quite clear they don’t have the starting pitching to compete for a WS title


No, I don't think this is clear at all. The Dodgers just won a WS with basically three functional and healthy SP at the end of the season. The Braves even if they don't do anything at all this offseason, which seems unlikely, still project to have a top third rotation next year.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 3:02 pm to
Go ahead and list the Braves rotation for next year then compare it to the teams at the top of the National League
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 4:37 pm to
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I don’t expect them to compete with the Yankees, Dodgers, or Mets in payroll. I

They have the 7th highest payroll in baseball.

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This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 4:39 pm
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 9:27 pm to
Sale/Lopez/Strider/Schwellenbach is right up there with any team's top 4 save the Dodgers and maybe the Phillies. Then they have Elder/AJSS/Ian Anderson/Grant Holmes, et al. as fifth starter options. And this is assuming they add no one else this offseason, which I doubt happens.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 1/5/25 at 6:09 pm to

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They have the 7th highest payroll in baseball



They're also 5th in revenue

Braves ain't exactly the Sisters of the Poor either.

I would expect top 3 when their old TV contract expires in '27
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 7:12 am to
There is absolutely no guarantee that Strider will be anywhere near his old self after that kind of injury and there is no guarantee he even pitches this year so that’s a stretch at best. He definitely will not be available the first couple of months. He will have to rehab in the minors. They will start the season with Sale and two to three solid starters. That isn’t a top four rotation if the goal is to win a championship
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 8:48 am to
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There is absolutely no guarantee that Strider will be anywhere near his old self after that kind of injury and there is no guarantee he even pitches this year so that’s a stretch at best


Strider himself has said that he expects to have a normal spring training schedule. I would probably expect him to make his season debut in April or May.

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They will start the season with Sale and two to three solid starters


This really undersells the other guys, particularly Schwellenbach. The fact that he added two pitches to his arsenal while he was in the majors last season is pretty staggering. I think he could be a top of the rotation/Cy Young kind of guy.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:22 pm to
Seems unlikely he will be pitching in April or May considering the buzz that the Braves are looking for a short term contract for another starter to fill his void in the rotation. Players say a lot of things when it comes to injuries and recovery
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:46 pm to
In terms of not being fair to the rest of the rotation, the Braves are behind Washington, Mets, and Phillies in their own division for starters with an era in the top 58 which is all ESPN has for stats and they are behind the Mets and Phillies with starting pitchers in the top 60 for wins. The current version of the Braves isn’t very good and this roster is missing two of their better pitchers from a team that failed to get past the Wild Card round
Posted by playmakers in space
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
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There is absolutely no guarantee that Strider will be anywhere near his old self after that kind of injury and there is no guarantee he even pitches this year so that’s a stretch at best. He definitely will not be available the first couple of months. He will have to rehab in the minors. They will start the season with Sale and two to three solid starters. That isn’t a top four rotation if the goal is to win a championship


There is no guarantee that any modern day starting pitcher makes it through the season as effective as they've previously been. They all get hurt, man. All of them. Guys like Zack Wheeler are a massive outlier these days, and even he had major injury issues when he was with the Mets. The Dodgers were absolutely decimated by injuries last year in their starting rotation, but they won the World Series anyway because they mashed in the postseason and their bullpen was mostly lights out. Hell, even when we won it all a few seasons ago, we were relying on glue and ducktape to hold things together in the starting rotation. We had Dylan Lee start a game 4 in the World Series. We took the Dodgers to 7 games in the NLCS in 2020 with AJ Minter and Bryse Wilson starting games. Trying to predict pitcher health these days is a fool's errand. You have to just stack as many guys as you can, which is probably why we focus so hard on pitchers when we draft.
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