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Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 12/7/24 at 12:47 pm
Any word on some position coaching changes? Kent Austin? TE coach? Special teams?
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20355 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 2:11 pm to
Aldridge might be leaving for ECU. Great, we’re going to lose our good coaches, but shite coaches like the QB and TE coaches appear to be returning.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3366 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 3:41 pm to
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shite coaches like the QB and TE coaches appear to be returning.


Why do you call them "shite" coaches? Could it be the folks they are trying to teach?
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:05 pm to
He wanted Durkin fired multiple times this year if that helps you understand this op
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20355 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 4:37 pm to
Link me 1 time I said fire Durkin. I said he needs to grow some balls and bring pressure on 3rd and long, but I didn’t say fire him. Otherwise, wouldn’t I have listed him in my OP?

The fact is, the QB and TE rooms have sucked the past 2 years.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9542 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:11 pm to

quote:

The fact is, the QB and TE rooms have sucked the past 2 years.


There’s a valid reason, IMO.

Our QB was under constant pressure courtesy of one of the worst performing OLs in the SEC, and mebbe our worst performing since 2012.

Our TEs were needed for blocking assignments, courtesy of a weak OL, thus placing a premium on our blocking TEs instead of other TE personnel that might have offered different skill sets. Not the way we wanted it, but that’s the way it goes. Either way, it changes playcalling.

Anyway, big and talented TE recruits prefer to showcase their skills in pro-set or power offenses … and unfortunately that hasn’t been seen on the Plains since … well, quite awhile.

Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3949 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Our QB was under constant pressure courtesy of one of the worst performing OLs in the SEC


This is so overblown.
Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17414 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

This is so overblown.


Yep.

Every single team with a bad QB says this every time.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 6:18 pm
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3949 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:21 pm to
They weren't great but once Percy lewis was benched they did well enough. With PT at the helm any offense would underperform. Idc who he had around him, he was just not good enough.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9542 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:22 pm to
I believe the common phrase was “ human turnstile” during this season.

We definitely need experience and depth from the portal. If we keep adding guys like X Chaplin, I’ll be satisfied
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3949 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:24 pm to
No doubt. Give Jackson the best opportunity to sit in the pocket and learn and make a play. Also makes us look a lil more sexy to Cade if he's looking around after the playoff.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20355 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 6:43 pm to
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Could it be the folks they are trying to teach?

I don’t blame Austin for PT. Not much you can teach a bad 5th year senior. The same with awful senior TE. But they had talent in the younger guys and couldn’t coach them up enough to bench those seniors.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4356 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Every single team with a bad QB says this every time.



Why would this surprise you as probably being correlated to some real degree? Think logically: even the worst QB in CFB would complete passes at an incredibly high rate if you theoretically gave him perfect protection on every single pass attempt (ie: zero pressure) and had receivers who never dropped catchable passes. Why? Because a receiver somewhere on the field would eventually get open, and then it simply comes down to that QB's physical ability to deliver a catchable football. Even the worst D1 QB's can deliver catchable passes at a very high rate on scenarios where there is zero pressure coming at them.

I just looked at the Top 10 and Bottom 10 teams nation-wide in Sacks Allowed, and averaged out the Passer Ratings of those teams. Remember, Passer Rating doesn't take into account Sacks Allowed, so the teams that gave up the most sacks aren't being penalized by those sacks in their Passer Rating. The result?

Average Passer Rating of Top 10 Teams with LEAST SACKS ALLOWED: 135.70
Average Passer Rating of Top 10 Teams with MOST SACKS ALLOWED: 125.14

So even just looking at a basic one-to-one comparison shows a 10-point swing wherein preventing sacks equaled a higher team total Passer Rating. This obviously isn't taking into account every variable. For example, Colorado is 10th in most Sacks Allowed and has a very high Passer Rating (Shadeur Sanders), but they also attempt a huge amount of passes which means they will by default be more prone to sack opportunities.

Keep in mind that Sacks Allowed is just one rough estimate of OL play. A team that gives up a lot of sacks most likely has a bad OL that is also giving up a lot of Total Pressures. Pressures will have a negative impact on a QB's success rate on any pass play (obviously). On the flipside, it is possible for sacks to also be caused by poor QB and WR play (ie: coverage sacks), but these are obviously much less common than an OL simply failing and it leading to a sack. Nobody is getting sacked ~40 times a season because "they hold onto the ball too long".

Is there any example anywhere of a QB putting up an elite statistical season with a categorically bad OL? On the flipside, there are obviously cases of completely average QB's who are able to produce well above their ability as a result of elite protection from their OL.

This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 8:03 pm
Posted by The_SwAUggford
Member since Jan 2013
3949 posts
Posted on 12/15/24 at 8:47 pm to
10 points is a smaller swing than I was expecting
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9542 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 5:54 am to
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Keep in mind that Sacks Allowed is just one rough estimate of OL play. A team that gives up a lot of sacks most likely has a bad OL that is also giving up a lot of Total Pressures.


The real damage is the impact on playcalling
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