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Realistically, is there anything that can be done to make Vanderbilt competitive?

Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:43 am
I originally thought no, but if Lance Leipold could turn KU around, the right coach might be able to do the same with Vanderbilt. Of course, I understand that there is a MASSIVE difference between winning in the Big 12 and in the SEC (looking at you, Texas), but I think with enough time and patience, it's possible. What would that path look like? Troll if you must, but I'd really appreciate some real answers.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 10:09 pm
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:45 am to
If they ever have a good enough coach, he’s probably going to get poached. Same will probably happen with Lance Leipold if a big job becomes available.
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
15831 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:53 am to
They could be competitive if they wanted to be. They have money to invest in NIL, but they have no interest in doing that. They're content to leech off the rest of the conference and cash their check at the end of the year.
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 9:56 am to
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I understand that there is a MASSIVE difference between winning in the Big 12 and in the SEC (looking at you, Texas)
A&M had one 10-win season in 16 years in the Big 12
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50332 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:04 am to
I bet Nick Saban or Urban Meyer could have won big
Posted by Mstate
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2009
10116 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

They could be competitive if they wanted to be. They have money to invest in NIL, but they have no interest in doing that.


This is the reason. Vandy doesn’t have fans they have Alumni

My brother is a vandy grad and couldn’t name a single vandy athlete nor has he gone to a game since he graduated
Posted by Beau Fontenot
Member since Oct 2018
252 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:02 am to
That's likely not going to ever happen, because Vanderbilt won't lower its standards like other SEC schools. Stanford is the strictest in this regard, but they have a national brand. Vandy doesn't.

And as another poster stated, the alumni base doesn't care. They prefer to maintain the prestige of a Vanderbilt degree, and you can't do that if you take kids that can barely write and do 6th grade math.
Posted by flagshipuniversity
Camden SC, Charlotte NC
Member since Jul 2024
460 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:05 am to
If we all become 4-4 in conference games, then yes. That won't happen so for every team that wins 8,7 or 6 conference games there has to be an opposite record for some other teams. It's actually how it works.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5605 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:07 am to
They need to strike gold with a qb. It happens every 15-20 years or so.
Posted by WESB59
TN-The Bermuda Triangle of Football
Member since Oct 2018
180 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:08 am to
One day we are going to get a rich Rodney Dangerfield type of alumnus.

And when we do, he's gonna buy us a football team and give free admission to anybody that will wear a VU tee-shirt (which will be handed out at every home game).

And when that happens you all are gonna be so screwed,
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5605 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:10 am to
quote:

They could be competitive if they wanted to be. They have money to invest in NIL, but they have no interest in doing that. They're content to leech off the rest of the conference and cash their check at the end of the year.


They're here to raise the Graduation rate of the conference. I thank them for their contribution.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
42733 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:11 am to
quote:

there is a MASSIVE difference between winning in the Big 12 and in the SEC (looking at you, Texas)


How would an A&M fan know, y'all haven't won shite in either conference this century?
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13363 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:18 am to
They can be good in everything but football nice play to visit, good school and the big dog football teams need schools to beat. Thus, they might be the perfect member
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
5989 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:21 am to
quote:

One day we are going to get a rich Rodney Dangerfield type of alumnus.

And when we do, he's gonna buy us a football team and give free admission to anybody that will wear a VU tee-shirt (which will be handed out at every home game).

And when that happens you all are gonna be so screwed,

A Rare Vanderbilt Fan appeared! Use the Master Ball before it can escape!
Posted by Archibald
Member since Apr 2024
1979 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 11:46 am to
CreightonCringey
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14819 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Realistically, is there anything that can be done to make Vanderbilt competitive?


Yes. They could hire a quality, top 20 coach and try to keep him from using Vanderbilt as a stepping stone job.

Franklin took Vandy to a bowl game all three seasons when he was there and back to back 9 win seasons.

Vandy won’t ever be competing for a national championship every year. But they could be a dangerous program capable of beating anyone on a given day with the right coach and sufficient monetary support from the administration and fans/alumnus.
Posted by ht1950
Member since Dec 2023
316 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 12:23 pm to
As has been posted, Franklin made Vandy competitive, so it can be done. The biggest problem would be keeping a winning coach there when the offers to move on inevitably come in. At any rate, Vandy is a founding member and has won in other sports over the years.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
16873 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Realistically, is there anything that can be done to make Vanderbilt competitive? I originally thought no, but if Lance Leipold could turn KU around, the right coach might be able to do the same with Vanderbilt. Of course, I understand that there is a MASSIVE difference between winning in the Big 12 and in the SEC (looking at you, Texas), but I think with enough time and patience, it's possible. What would that path look like? Troll if you must, but I'd really appreciate some real answers.

How about having Texas A&M lose to Vanderbilt in football?
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
14609 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:22 pm to
They're run by a bunch of elitist liberals who hate sports. It'll never happen.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
5989 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 1:28 pm to
I appreciate the largely non-trolling responses, guys.
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