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Opinions..Does Beamer get another

Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:29 am
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:29 am
Year if he has a losing season? And, if not, will Tanner be allowed to make the hire?
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:12 am
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:24 pm to
He should. Based on his recruiting, it my opinion, seems obvious that 2025 is the year where it should all come together (if it does at all). He recruited the lines well, but those guys take time to become starters. Lanorris will be in year 2 with some decent backs and young WR's that should have come into their own.

This year we should be improved over last year, but development wise, next year is the one he has to win in. Granted I will also say that SC should keep a coach around and let him try to build. We are not a quick rebuild place for football.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 12:25 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:37 pm to
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should. Based on his recruiting,


Have you seen the recent recruiting class? Very unimpressive.
Beamer was hired based on the promise of bringing in a dynamic coaching staff and that was a lie. We are in the SEC and this isn't the conference for a coach to cut his teeth on.
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
1395 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:30 pm to
I agree that he is setting up for 2025.

Getting Elliott was huge in building momentum

I will say that i was all in on beamer but he seems to come off kinda like a petulant kid.

He needs to grow a thicker skin and get tough.

This is hard arse sec football not cheerleading
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8713 posts
Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Have you seen the recent recruiting class? Very unimpressive.
Beamer was hired based on the promise of bringing in a dynamic coaching staff and that was a lie. We are in the SEC and this isn't the conference for a coach to cut his teeth on.


As in the class that signed last year? or the current class we are recruiting? I thought it was pretty good. Dylan Stewart by all accounts seems like a solid player. Getting some 4 star lineman should be good for us depth wise and going forward. Two good LB's in Johnson and Gregory.

I always thought the transfers were pretty solid. two really good backs if nothing else



For this seasons class, it certainly hasn't been stellar to start, but I expect a lot of those guys to rise in the rankings. Shane is a pretty good evaluator imo
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:00 pm to
Depends on his record and how we get to it.

If we are 5-7 but competitive in 5-6 of those losses, I’m okay with it.

If we are 7-5, with 4 or 5 close wins and the losses being arse whippings, I’d be much more concerned.

Unless the rails completely fall off this season, he’ll get 2025, but he needs to be 8 wins or better that season to keep going imo.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8713 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:46 pm to
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Unless the rails completely fall off this season, he’ll get 2025, but he needs to be 8 wins or better that season to keep going imo.


For the sake of discussion. At some point we will need to do a mark stoops and commit to someone. In this modern day USC isn't going to be a 3 year turn around.

now if you want to argue he is corny and a bad look and isn't the guy to hold onto for 10 years...I can live with that. My point is just at some point we have to let someone build without expecting the quick turn around, and with allowing a bad year here or there.
Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 9:05 pm to
Sticking with crap coaches is how you keep getting crap coaches.

But until Tanner is gone I have no faith in any of our programs outside of women’s basketball which quiet frankly I would give up altogether if it meant we could be a perennial top 25 football program.
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
1395 posts
Posted on 6/25/24 at 1:54 am to
[Quote] now if you want to argue he is corny and a bad look and isn't the guy to hold onto for 10 years...I can live with that".


There's where I am. I was all for Beamer at the beginning but his cringe, petty behavior is embarrassing.

He needs to quit "keeping receipts" and start showing a product. I say he gets next year and if that goes bad he's gone. That's 6 years..

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 6/26/24 at 5:22 pm to
I think we would have to bomb pretty bad for Beamer to be fired after this season. Let's be honest, in today's win now environment, his Dad would have been fired at VT way before he found success.

I think Beamers attitude is what has kept him from getting top name assistants. Humble he is not
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8713 posts
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:41 pm to
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Let's be honest, in today's win now environment, his Dad would have been fired at VT way before he found success.


I have had this same thought before and you're 100% correct.


I agree with the humble comment, but then again neither is Dabo, neither was spurrier. I am more likely to believe that the perception of Beamer is a reason he hasn't pulled in big assistants. I don't know that a lot of outside guys want to hitch their wagon to an unknown. Granted he had done well with Elliot, Teasley, and Travian...as far as recruiting goes
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 6/28/24 at 1:51 am to
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agree with the humble comment, but then again neither is Dabo, neither was spurrier. I am more


They are both National Championship coaches with multiple conference championships. Beamer hasn't won anything to allow him to be cocky.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/4/24 at 10:46 pm to
Mushcamp got 58 games before he was fired - Shane's sitting at 38 right now - Beamer will get every bit the 58 games the shithead was allowed to coach - unless there's some sort of NCAA problem/sanctions that arise -

he'll get 5 seasons - but 6 is not guaranteed -

as for this year - it would be nice to finally beat Vanderbilt Kentucky Missouri all in the same season - and he'll most likely have to do that in order to get to a bowl game - especially if he can't beat Aggy at home off the bye week - two weekends before Missouri arrives -
This post was edited on 7/4/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
14280 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:40 pm to
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unless there's some sort of NCAA problem/sanctions that arise -


Like Taylor Edwards tampering with a recruit and putting nil in writing as a representative of the University.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
8036 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:20 pm to
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Like Taylor Edwards tampering with a recruit and putting nil in writing as a representative of the University.
yeah pretty much exactly something like that - smdh incredible ain't it -

hopefully it just goes away - like he had to -

looking at this 2024 schedule - Shane better find a way to defend home turf this fall - the 3 OOC games have to be handled - and LSU Ole Miss Aggy Missouri better not have more than 2 losses -

Nashville (big gap) then Lexington Norman Tuscaloosa listed by probability to win - the last two arguably interchangeable - getting a 6th win on the season at Vandy would be a huge accomplishment and relief - worst case it has to be Wofford in game 11 - otherwise ....

the bye weeks do fall in pretty good spots before Ole Miss & Aggy both at home - 4 games - bye - 3 games - bye - 5 to close out -
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