re: The biggest bowl win for each coach compared to total games coached.

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LSU paid his buyout in full did they not? The article I linked said LSU will pay the remaining $16.95 million on his contract.

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They paid his full buyout as it stood at the end of the season. By waiting until the end of the season to terminate him, the buyout was less under the terms of his contract.

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In 2022, LSU had the #15 class with 1 5 star, 6 4 stars and 8 3 stars. An average of 90.56

In 2022, Florida has the #19 class, 0 5 stars, 7 4 stars and 11 3 stars with an average of 87.45

That was the class they both came in on.

In 2021, Florida #13, LSU #4. LSU had only 2 3 star players, Florida had 11. 92.07 average vs 89.02

2020, Florida #8, 90.40 average with 1 5 star and 6 3 star. LSU #4, 92.66 average and 3 5 star and 3 3 star.

Seriously, how in the hell are you going to pretend like LSU was in anywhere near the same shape as Florida?

Are LSU fans really this fricking desperate to make excuses for Brian Kelly's 7 losses over the past 2 years?

And don't give me shite about BK only inherited a few scholarships. He was hired at the end of November, any that transferred out did so after he was the HC, and he was there to maintain the players, finish out the recruiting class and make it as seamless as possible, with your former head coach in full support to the point in which he could keep his dick in his pants.

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You can focus on star rankings if you want to. The fact of the matter is that from coaches to players, these individuals are human beings, and the entire culture around the program was toxic from top to bottom when Orgeron left.

When Kelly arrived, we had people in the football ops building who didn't even know what their job descriptions were. He had to completely clean house. Orgeron was prancing around town with a bunch of gold diggers when he should have been coaching the team. Orgeron's right hand man and "chief talent scout", Derek Ponamansky, is a convicted felon and a grifter who only got the job because he kissed Orgeron's arse on local radio before LSU fired Miles. He had zero qualifications for the job. Ponamsky's idea of scouting was getting on 247 and telling Orgeron who the highest ranked recruits were.

In his last year as coach, we had two coordinators who had never been coordinators before. Our OC, Jake Peetz, couldn't even get a play call in on time for most of the game. Why? Because no coordinator worth his salt wanted to coach under Orgeron. He's an idiot who has zero respect in the coaching community. Steve Ensminger and Dave Aranda managed to keep the ship afloat until they left. After that, it was all downhill.

Read the article. Throwing tantrums in the locker room? Publicly calling out UCLA fans for their "sissy blue shirts" while walking into the stadium before the game? Covering up allegations of sexual harassment and abuse? Who does that? A dumb fricking coonass from Lafourche Parish, Louisiana who had no business running a Top 15 college football program in the first place. That's who. Players and coaches describing the program as "broken".

That's what Kelly inherited, and that is what he has been tasked with fixing from top to bottom. You can make a valid argument that Orgeron left him with the biggest cluster frick of a program when he left than any coach has ever inherited. And everyone with an ounce of sense saw it coming from a mile away when Joe Alleva's dumb arse hired Orgeron.

I can't speak to the situation at Florida when Mullen left. He has been criticized for his failure to recruit top talent, but I would venture a guess that the culture of the program was in better shape when he left than it was at LSU. Mullen is a lot of things, but he's not a moron.