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re: Regarding the whole Bruce Pearl/Nate Oats comparison
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:17 pm to BamaBravesPackers
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:17 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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And I camped out for 2 days to get Bama student basketball tickets about a decade before AU ever became relevant in basketball. So you might want to know your audience when calling people “new” to basketball (hint…AU basketball fans should never call someone new to basketball).
Bama basketball was Wimp. Look at his pictures dude. Nobody cares bout that 1991 team. You sound like Arkansas.
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:21 pm to BamaBravesPackers
All you have done is belittle and ignore Bruce’s accomplishments in this thread. And for some reason you want to believe that because since you got your coach that that has had any effect on Pearl. Last time I checked, Auburn and UAT didn’t play each other in the NCAA tournament since he’s been there. When it comes to SEC accomplishments, they are both even. And I have already admitted that Pearl has disappointed in two of the last 3 years in the NCAAs. But again, his struggles in the tournament has nothing to do with your team. It has everything to do with subpar guard play. You put Sears on this past Auburn team, they easily make it to the final 4. The 3 guards that left combined to average around 17ppg. That’s atrocious and is the reason why we haven’t done anything in the tournament. But again, that has nothing to do with your coach. And again, you fail to look at the talent disparity between the two teams. Pearl for the most part continues to overachieve with the players he gets. UAT, with the talent they have, have done a little better than Auburn when it comes to the postseason, that’s it. Again, you cannot be objective though.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:22 pm to jangalang
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Other than Bruce not advancing this year in his own side of the bracket, what bearing do you think Bruce had on Oats this final four run?
Helped us secure a 4 seed by having a good Net when we played against him and went 1-1. Helped us (and continues to help us) in recruiting by not being able to out recruit Oats and by significantly underachieving with talented teams, while also losing 60% of his games against Oats. You know, the little things
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:25 pm to BamaBravesPackers
You got that sweetheart deal in the tournament thanks to your AD alone.
Your shitty team finished the regular season losing 4 out of 6 all by 14 plus points so that fortunate win for yall in Tuscaloosa had very little bearing
We dont usually go after Oats guys as we have our own pipelines. AUSC is right- you are a prick
Your shitty team finished the regular season losing 4 out of 6 all by 14 plus points so that fortunate win for yall in Tuscaloosa had very little bearing
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in recruiting by not being able to out recruit Oats
We dont usually go after Oats guys as we have our own pipelines. AUSC is right- you are a prick
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:29 pm to AUSCgrad2016
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You put Sears on this past Auburn team, they easily make it to the final 4. The 3 guards that left combined to average around 17ppg. That’s atrocious and is the reason why we haven’t done anything in the tournament. But again, that has nothing to do with your coach. And again, you fail to look at the talent disparity between the two teams. Pearl for the most part continues to overachieve with the players he gets. UAT, with the talent they have, have done a little better than Auburn when it comes to the postseason, that’s it. Again, you cannot be objective though.
You literally just said put Sears on your team and it would have been successful in the NCAAT, then followed it up with the coach that actually snagged Sears had no bearing on the coach that didn’t snag Sears. Seems to me that if Oats is impacting what players do or do not end up at AU and those determine if AU is successful in the NCAAT, then he is having a direct impact on Bruce’s ability to be successful in the NCAAT. Give it another 5 years and this will likely all make sense to you. Right now you guys are like LSU football, holding on to 2019 while being above average currently.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:30 pm to BamaBravesPackers
You need to stick to your team, you clearly know nothing about Auburn basketball. Pearl has never had stellar recruiting. And being an Under Armor school has hurt immensely. What Pearl does best is to get players who want to prove their worth and play above their talent. Your previous coach out recruited Pearl, so that’s not saying much. Yes, Pearl has a losing record right now, but again, context. In 2022-23 and in 20-21, Auburn had really mediocre teams, the two years you swept Auburn. The one year you had a mediocre team with your coach, in 2021-2022, Auburn swept you. So again, given the talent on both team’s rosters, it’s been pretty even. You have no idea how difficult it is to have success at Auburn in basketball compared to your school. Again, you make it sound like your coach is running circles around Pearl when in reality he has done just a little better with wayyy more talent.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:33 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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Seems to me that if Oats is impacting what players do or do not end up at AU and those determine if AU is successful in the NCAAT, then he is having a direct impact on Bruce’s ability to be successful in the NCAAT.
Oats isnt. Your hubris is merely elevated.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:34 pm to Govt Tide
Wimp took over from CM Newton, Bruce took over from Tony friggin Barbee and Jeff Lebo.
Go look at the programs from the last 6-8 years or so prior to them taking the reins. Wimp just hopped on the train and kept rolling, Bruce had to rebuild a broke down locomotive and go find some boxcars to hitch on to it, then rebuild the tracks like Sherman had marched through Georgia.
Go look at the programs from the last 6-8 years or so prior to them taking the reins. Wimp just hopped on the train and kept rolling, Bruce had to rebuild a broke down locomotive and go find some boxcars to hitch on to it, then rebuild the tracks like Sherman had marched through Georgia.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:35 pm to BamaBravesPackers
You really make no sense. Pearl and your coach for the most part do not recruit the same players because they run vastly different systems. Again, reading comprehension is your friend. If Auburn had Sears on their team, they would be more successful. Pearl never recruited Sears, so it wasn’t like your coach outrecruited Pearl for him. They go after completely different guards. If Aden lived up to his hype instead of shooting worse than many YMCA guys i have seen play, then Auburn would have done much better. As usual, you seem to be lost and cannot stay on topic so you say random things to make it seem like you understand basketball.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:37 pm to AUSCgrad2016
well said.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:41 pm to AUSCgrad2016
We literally just signed a guy from your team. We also just signed one of your previously committed recruits. But we don’t recruit the same players? I’m going to bed, you guys are hilarious.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:44 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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We literally just signed a guy from your team
lol
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:54 pm to BamaBravesPackers
I don’t think that is the flex you think it is. Philon committed to Auburn and left when Wes Flanagan left. Aden was a bust for us this year. Aden was going to be a bench player for Auburn this year if he returned after Pearl gave him every opportunity to succeed. The only guard that left that was a surprise to the staff was Donaldson because he had told them he was staying. So, technically, Pearl did out recruit your coach in the beginning. Pearl didn’t pursue Philon this second time and Aden was not going to get starting minutes, so he left. So, again, you are wrong. Your coach did not outrecruit Pearl for those players. I am looking forward to more constructive conversations with you if it pertains to relevant basketball lingo.
Posted on 5/1/24 at 11:18 pm to BamaBravesPackers
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We literally just signed a guy from your team.
This just keeps getting better and better.
Keep showing that arse
Posted on 5/2/24 at 12:41 am to AUSCgrad2016
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...The OP seems very misguided and lacks history of the two programs...
Quite the opposite actually. I have an uncle as well as a great uncle who played basketball at Alabama. Started going to Alabama basketball games as a small kid right around the time Wimp took over as head coach. I know the history of the two programs.
Bruce is a better coach than Wimp was by the way...especially when you add his coaching tenure at Tennessee to his tenure at Auburn. I was simply making the point that outside of a single magical run to the Final 4 in 2019 Pearl's 10 seasons at Auburn have in most cases fallen short of Wimp's 12 seasons at Alabama
Posted on 5/2/24 at 7:49 am to Glorious
UA? You had 4 stars o the roster. BP had no stars. UA was in far better shape when CNO took over, easily.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:13 am to Govt Tide
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Regarding the whole Bruce Pearl/Nate Oats comparison
I'm afraid you are the one missing the boat. Basketball is getting scary in the state of Alabama. Pearl is making the proverbial silk purse out of the sow's ear. Comparing the 2 is fruitless at this point. They both have the nation's attention and everyone in the state seems happy we have a sport to follow after football, besides spring football. Lighten up, Frances.
Posted on 5/2/24 at 8:18 am to bamameister
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Bamameister
This is the way
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:00 am to BamaBravesPackers
Goddamn BamaBraves getting absolutely dragged in this thread by AUUSCgrad.
Lots of points being intentionally ignored:
Oats under performing last year despite the easy path.
Oats having incredibly easy paths in the tournament this year, last year, and COVID year.
Pearl is the driving reason Avery was fired and Oats was hired.
Oats Covid year success where there were no true road games and players were opting out or being held out left and right.
Bruce’s 2019-2020 team was playing its best ball going into March and gearing up to make a run in the SEC tourney and big dance before the postseason was canceled.
But keep hammering the 5-6 year semantics like it’s such a super serious point.
Lots of points being intentionally ignored:
Oats under performing last year despite the easy path.
Oats having incredibly easy paths in the tournament this year, last year, and COVID year.
Pearl is the driving reason Avery was fired and Oats was hired.
Oats Covid year success where there were no true road games and players were opting out or being held out left and right.
Bruce’s 2019-2020 team was playing its best ball going into March and gearing up to make a run in the SEC tourney and big dance before the postseason was canceled.
But keep hammering the 5-6 year semantics like it’s such a super serious point.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:21 am to Govt Tide
This thread you have made to begin with sounds like you don’t know much about Auburn’s history in basketball. Outside of 7 years of good basketball since the 80s, Auburn had been trash before Pearl came along. Your school has had way more success in basketball and has had inherited advantages to be successful in basketball. I mean, freaking Gottfried made you guys relevant and he was nothing special.
My point is that the whole point of this thread that you started was that you were making it sound like your coach was some better coach than Pearl and disregarded Pearl’s accomplishments at Auburn. You and other UAT fans continue to forget how difficult it is to recruit at Auburn due to the AAU circuit shoe affiliations, where it is very important to these players. Not once have I ever said that your coach was bad or that he hasn’t done anything. My point has been that they have been equal and that’s with your team having way more talent than Auburn since your coach has been there. So, in essence, Pearl has done a much better job than your coach, given the disadvantages at Auburn and the talent disparity. I have also stated that in two of the last three years, Pearl has failed to meet expectations in the tournament with top 10 teams. Your whole team this year underperformed until you got hot for 4 games along with getting the easiest path to the final 4 that I can remember. So yea, all I am asking of you and other UAT fans is to acknowledge what Pearl has done at Auburn. Your coach has had a good 4 year run so far. Again though, basketball success is way different than football success.
My point is that the whole point of this thread that you started was that you were making it sound like your coach was some better coach than Pearl and disregarded Pearl’s accomplishments at Auburn. You and other UAT fans continue to forget how difficult it is to recruit at Auburn due to the AAU circuit shoe affiliations, where it is very important to these players. Not once have I ever said that your coach was bad or that he hasn’t done anything. My point has been that they have been equal and that’s with your team having way more talent than Auburn since your coach has been there. So, in essence, Pearl has done a much better job than your coach, given the disadvantages at Auburn and the talent disparity. I have also stated that in two of the last three years, Pearl has failed to meet expectations in the tournament with top 10 teams. Your whole team this year underperformed until you got hot for 4 games along with getting the easiest path to the final 4 that I can remember. So yea, all I am asking of you and other UAT fans is to acknowledge what Pearl has done at Auburn. Your coach has had a good 4 year run so far. Again though, basketball success is way different than football success.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 9:24 am
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