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re: Remember When We Were Told Abrams Battle Tanks Would Change The Trajectory Of The War?
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:55 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:55 am to Toomer Deplorable
The Abrams is a solid weapon. More than likely it’s the personnel operating it.
ETA drones are a relatively new battle weapon and no Tech is really immune
ETA drones are a relatively new battle weapon and no Tech is really immune
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 8:57 am
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:02 am to papasmurf1269
Agree. The tank crews make the Abrams effective. Also when we operate the Abrams we have air superiority. You need good crews and air support. Our fighters clear the skies, the Warthogs knock the enemy force down, the Apaches chip away some more and the Abrams finish them off. We don’t want to fight fair.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:04 am to papasmurf1269
Yes, training is a big component. I spent over 20 years of my life on an Abrams. Even when we weren't deploying, we'd spend 5-6 months per year training on those bastards--2 gunneries per year (1 month each), 2 FTXs (1 month each) with stupid arse MILES gear and Hoffman devices and then a month say doing OPFOR shite on tanks for some infantry unit or something.
But the biggest issue is drones. Our biggest fear was never a ground pounder with a TOW or a T-72, we'd smoke them. It was always red air. A Hind-D could kill you. Period.
Tanks are only effective (like most weapon systems) as a Combined Arms Team. Ukraine does not have the ability and training to operate as a Combined Arms force.
But the biggest issue is drones. Our biggest fear was never a ground pounder with a TOW or a T-72, we'd smoke them. It was always red air. A Hind-D could kill you. Period.
Tanks are only effective (like most weapon systems) as a Combined Arms Team. Ukraine does not have the ability and training to operate as a Combined Arms force.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 9:29 am to papasmurf1269
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The Abrams is a solid weapon. More than likely it’s the personnel operating it.
ETA drones are a relatively new battle weapon and no Tech is really immune
Yes and we did not send the most sophisticated Abrams tanks to Ukraine. We did not want one of them to end up in the hands of the enemy. Meanwhile, we are learning much about the weaponry of the other side and its effect on the "standard" Abrams model.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:36 am to papasmurf1269
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ETA drones are a relatively new battle weapon and no Tech is really immune
You would think some form of jamming could be employed. Like a major sporting events law enforcement has the ability to take over the drone and land it somewhere.
Posted on 4/27/24 at 1:47 pm to papasmurf1269
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The Abrams is a solid weapon. More than likely it’s the personnel operating it.
This and air support
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