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re: Most overrated football coach in the SEC
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:04 am to 3down10
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:04 am to 3down10
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Nobody is trying to claim those other 200-300 are great, so obviously they can't be over-rated.
Calling a coach that has lost 7 games over the past 2 years, which is also the average for his career great is.
This is a strawman argument, I haven't seen anyone say BK is "great"
The OP said he was overrated, my stance is that he's rated correctly.
He's usually ranked as the second or third best coach in the conference, which corresponds with his winning percentage.
He's usually a top 7 coach overall, which seems correct.
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:05 am to DirtyCreekBottoms
quote:Billy Napier
Most overrated football coach in the SEC
People are just not grasping how terrible he is
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:06 am to bamameister
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What fans see is a guy who has been at places that draw outstanding talent and has been a head coach for a long period of time. So far he's been the John Cooper of second bananas. He has to own it at this point and do better.
Notre Dame doesn't really draw "outstanding talent."
Per On3, his 2012 team that lost to Bama in the natty was less talented than 2023 Washington.
It's part of the reason why Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:23 am to DirtyCreekBottoms
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LSU fans have turned into a bunch of tea towing pussies ffs.
WTF is tea towing? I've heard of teetotaling but tea towing?
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:36 am to SidewalkTiger
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Notre Dame doesn't really draw "outstanding talent."
Per On3, his 2012 team that lost to Bama in the natty was less talented than 2023 Washington.
It's part of the reason why Notre Dame hasn't won a major bowl game in 30 years.
Notre Dame has never had a recruiting problem.
2008: #4
2009: #17
2010: #10
2011: #11
2012: #19
Washington:
2019: #17
2020: #15
2021: #36
2022: #80
2023: #27
No idea what the frick you are smoking.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 11:38 am to Toroballistic
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WTF is tea towing? I've heard of teetotaling but tea towing?
He must be talking about them being members of the East India Company.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:25 pm to 3down10
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Notre Dame has never had a recruiting problem.
2008: #4
2009: #17
2010: #10
2011: #11
2012: #19
Washington:
2019: #17
2020: #15
2021: #36
2022: #80
2023: #27
No idea what the frick you are smoking
Like I said, per On3, his 2012 team that lost to Bama in the natty was less talented than 2023 Washington.
By any metric, Notre Dame hasn't been stacking elite talent for awhile. They usually fall in that 10-15 range these days.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Like I said, per On3, his 2012 team that lost to Bama in the natty was less talented than 2023 Washington.
By any metric, Notre Dame hasn't been stacking elite talent for awhile. They usually fall in that 10-15 range these days.
Those were On3 recruiting rankings for those years.
You mean since Brian Kelly started coaching at Notre Dame they haven't been stacking elite talent.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 12:54 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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Tennessee built this conference and Bama helped
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:05 pm to 3down10
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Those were On3 recruiting rankings for those years.
I used their team breakdown feature, which is similar to the 247 Team Talent Composite, not recruiting rankings.
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You mean since Brian Kelly started coaching at Notre Dame they haven't been stacking elite talent.
Weren't doing it before him and haven't did it since him either.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:08 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
saban
that dude mailed it in the last few seasons
he got out before the gumps got restless
that dude mailed it in the last few seasons
he got out before the gumps got restless
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:20 pm to Tideroller
Nah he's overrated.
Ofcourse he isn't a championship coach lmfao.
Ed O and Les Miles both have more national championships at LSU than BK ever will.
Ofcourse he isn't a championship coach lmfao.
Ed O and Les Miles both have more national championships at LSU than BK ever will.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:29 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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We would have won it in 2022 for sure and will bring in an even better performance for 2024.
When your team is used to success you start to realize how foolish statements like this sound to every single person except you.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
MANY coaches can win at Notre Dame for obvious reasons. And many coaches have dominated the lowest divisions of CFB only to flop when moving up to the top divisions, especially the SEC.
BK has only been in this league for two seasons and has had one of the biggest stat producing QBs ever since he got to LSU to work with.
The wheels are about to fall off with no more no more one in a million super senior transfer QBs to make you look decent at this level.
BK has only been in this league for two seasons and has had one of the biggest stat producing QBs ever since he got to LSU to work with.
The wheels are about to fall off with no more no more one in a million super senior transfer QBs to make you look decent at this level.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:32 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I used their team breakdown feature, which is similar to the 247 Team Talent Composite, not recruiting rankings.
Never used it, sounds dumb.
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Weren't doing it before him and haven't did it since him either.
Yes, they were. I'm not doing this bullshite again. Like talking to a retarded parrot.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:36 pm to 3down10
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Never used it, sounds dumb.
Why?
It accounts for the players actually on the team where a recruiting ranking doesn't.
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Yes, they were. I'm not doing this bullshite again. Like talking to a retarded parrot.
Uh no.
Notre Dame hasn't stacked elite classes in awhile, sure they may have one or two here and there, but they haven't did it consistently.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:38 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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MANY coaches can win at Notre Dame for obvious reasons. And many coaches have dominated the lowest divisions of CFB only to flop when moving up to the top divisions, especially the SEC.
BK has only been in this league for two seasons and has had one of the biggest stat producing QBs ever since he got to LSU to work with.
The wheels are about to fall off with no more no more one in a million super senior transfer QBs to make you look decent at this level.
That must be what happened to your coach.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:41 pm to TN Tygah
The west is in ruins now. That's a fact.
Ole Miss is the new favorite to win it.
not Bana nor LSwho.
Before you always had at least two good top teams followed by one or two other fairly tough squads. That's the east now not the west.
Ole Miss is the new favorite to win it.
not Bana nor LSwho.
Before you always had at least two good top teams followed by one or two other fairly tough squads. That's the east now not the west.
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:49 pm to DirtyCreekBottoms
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The west is in ruins now. That's a fact.
Ole Miss is the new favorite to win it.
not Bana nor LSwho.
Before you always had at least two good top teams followed by one or two other fairly tough squads. That's the east now not the west.
There are no divisions anymore...
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Why?
It accounts for the players actually on the team where a recruiting ranking doesn't.
Since ND's rankings were much higher, you are making the argument Brian Kelly couldn't keep the better talent on the team.
It's just dumb. They were given a certain amount of talent, which is kind of reflected in the recruiting rankings, and what they did with the talent given is on them. It's just some bullshite thing you found to make excuses for Brian Kelly's unimpressive resume.
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Uh no.
Notre Dame hasn't stacked elite classes in awhile, sure they may have one or two here and there, but they haven't did it consistently.
The coaches prior to BK were pulling in top5-10 classes. Showed this before, not doing it again.
You keep making excuses for BK while wondering why nobody else is impressed by him. The only way anyone is changing their opinions is if he actually goes out and fricking does something other than stupid shite like "2nd best record in conference" like it actually means something.
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