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re: Ok. I've got a question about college athletes becoming university employees.

Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:27 pm to
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I would think that they wouldn't get scholarships but the payments from the university would be more than sufficient, and yes they would still be students. Plenty of students are also employees at schools everywhere.


Well this is true but would they need to be? Lots of people work for the university who don't attend it. They're simply employed there.

I'm open to the discussion that football players are simply treated as employees who don't necessarily attend the school. With NIL and the ease of transfer, they don't have an emotional attachment to the school anyway.

Why not just go full tilt, contractually obligated professional football with all this? It would offer clarity and boundaries.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
2278 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 5:35 pm to
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Why not just go full tilt, contractually obligated professional football with all this? It would offer clarity and boundaries.


You could, but it would be a very bad deal for the players, here's why, if you go this route, and the average lifespan of an NFL player is 4 years, I would believe it'd roughly the same for these players here. Or if in year one you blow out your knee and can never play again, then you'd be done and have nothing to show for it except for what you had in your initial contract.
On the other hand, if you're a student, you can at least finish your education and get a degree and have something long-term to show for your time.
Posted by MondayNightPavs
Jax, FL
Member since Aug 2022
207 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 8:40 am to
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Why not just go full tilt, contractually obligated professional football with all this? It would offer clarity and boundaries.


Well if that were the case we would have to ask the more fundamental question: why should a university host a pro football team?

Right now the schools argue that school sports are a part of the educational program, mind body spirit and all that. The scholarships are there for the same reason that academic ones are, provide for those who show the best educational merit. That argument does not work if the football players are nothing but pros on salary.

I know this may seem silly given that many would say CFB has effectively been pro for a while, but this educational argument matters because without it, some fundamental questions come up. For example, why should state institutions use state tax dollars to pay for a pro sport team (not subsidize a stadium, but actually operate a pro team)? When the athletics fall under the education umbrella, societal goals are being advanced, public education is a societal good, the state should support institutions that further the mission of learning, etc. But if they are just pros that the school is paying for and there is not an educational component, what’s the reason for state support?

Let’s also not forget that most of the faculty and administration at these schools hold ideological beliefs that do not align with the majority of the populations of the states they are located in. I bring this up because if the schools start having to answer for having something like a pro football team, they may have to start answering other questions. I can certainly see state politicians latching onto this sort of issue. In the past the schools could use the shield of “education” and “academic freedom” against such interference, but if they openly are sponsoring something that has no educational component, like a pro football team, that shield won’t work.

I cannot emphasize enough the importance of the academic shield for these schools, and I cannot see any reason they would do something that would threaten it so much.

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