re: This is why we should have hired Kiffin

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ut I doubt we would have lost Sayin at least.

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Sayin had the chance to play for Kiffin and Sark as well as others but he choose to play for Saban who is no longer here.

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Downs probably would have leaned more to stay

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Downs came here because of Saban. Any other coach at UA Downs would have signed with UGA out of HS.

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maybe Bond as well

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Bond chased the money and not surprised he went to Texas. But he was gone before DeBoer was hired so not sure how that was his fault.

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but his ability to recruit the people there is appalling

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Please explain. The recruits and players that are leaving he never recruited or had a relationship with. His first full season at UW he finished with a top 30 class I believe(27) compared to the previous year where he was hire 2 months lefts before signing day and they finished with a 80th ranked class. Pretty big jump for a school never known to be a recruiting powerhouse.

And I could care less how well anyone can recruit, because UA has been one of the top recruiting programs for years but yet we have lacked development.

UA top 5 classes over the last 4 years barely makes the playoffs and loses the first round. UW with a new HC just 2 years ago comes with a roster full of 3 and 4 stars mixed in with same level of transfers out of HS and were developed and lost in the NC game.

Imagine what this new staff may be able to do with this roster that is still greater than what he had at UW.