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re: Why would Lanning want to follow a legend?
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:05 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:05 pm to AUTiger789
I don’t think Oregon is going to have a honeymoon in the B1G. That may turn out to be a poor fit.
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to Old Hellen Yeller
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I don’t think Oregon is going to have a honeymoon in the B1G. That may turn out to be a poor fit.
I think the opposite. I think Oregon especially will walk in and have a lot of success against most of the slow, traditional style programs like Iowa and Wisconsin. Only those with superior talent (OSU and Mich) will be a major threat. I’d pick Oregon to win the BIG10 next year
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:19 pm to AUTiger789
Who would want to follow, less pressure, they will build a statue where they’re at, etc. Folks really underestimate how ambitious coaches are at that level which is how they got to where they are in the first place.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:24 am to AUTiger789
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Remind me, how many NC's has Oregon ever won?
Two different head coaches have taken them to national title games. If Lanning is as good of a coach as them, it shouldn’t be hard for him to get Oregon back to that game.
Oh, that's right. None.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:31 am to AUTiger789
It would be an ego thing primarily. He may also feel that he is uniquely suited to keep Alabama’s roster mostly intact, which would give him a chance to win a title in year 1. The current Alabama roster is better than Oregon’s by a good bit.
Long-term, it’s definitely a big risk stepping into those expectations especially while dealing with the roster turnover of this era.
Long-term, it’s definitely a big risk stepping into those expectations especially while dealing with the roster turnover of this era.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:56 am to stephendomalley
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how about a huge guaranteed contract? and a cupboard that's loaded, and all the support and resources anyone could imagine.
The problem with Lanning is his youth. In a power vacuum there are usually individuals that try to step in and "guide" (takeover) a program. Whomever Alabama hires will need to be experienced with dealing with big donors and be able to keep them under control. Can Lanning do this? I honestly don't know. He's a very good coach, but would have his hands full at Alabama.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 7:07 am
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:57 am to Tupelo
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Remind me, how many NC's has Oregon ever won?
What has that got to do with this?:
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BIG10 offers easier path to playoff each year as there are only 5-6 programs that seem to have lofty expectations vs 9-10 in the SEC.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 6:57 am to AUTiger789
Ego.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:02 am to imjustafatkid
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He wouldn't - signs pointing to Deion
In all seriousness, Deion would have a lot going for him.
1. He would hold the recruiting class together, and build the talent level in coming years.
2. Has enough personality and ego to keep donors and boosters at bay.
3. Would be a splash hire.
4. Would certainly keep Alabama in the spotlight and probably increase donor money and keep them on TV.
The big question about Deion is is he a good enough coach. He did take a 1 win team and won 4 games with them last season, but I'm not sure that proves anything. That is the big question.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:05 am to m2pro
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Because a real legend wouldn't give a damn about the shadow before them.
Just a thought. Both he and Sark are in really good situations where they can win it all at some point.
Sark can probably get the same kind of team athletically as he could at Bama. Lanning would have a tougher time, but he can win that conference he's in now with less. Michigan has shown that.
Lanning or Sark could be great and win a title in their first five years and a good portion of the fan base won't be happy. Especially if Kirby or Kelly were to win two in that time.
This was already a problem at good programs that didn't have Saban. Now, the program that did have Saban is gonna accept second, third best? That's the problem for them.
And while they probably would get another job if they are fired, it likely won't be as good as what they've got now. The smart move would be to let someone else that is a lesser coach fail and then take the job.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:05 am to AUTiger789
Lanning is 37 and new to head coaching. I can’t imagine he’d want to deal with Bama boosters and fans right after Saban left when he has it made at Oregon.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:28 am to DawgsLife
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Remind me, how many NC's has Oregon ever won?
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BIG10 offers easier path to playoff each year as there are only 5-6 programs that seem to have lofty expectations vs 9-10 in the SEC.
I was responding to his entire original post about why Lanning would want to follow Saban. I just didn't want to quote his entire post. The bottom line, because Bama is a better place to be if you want to win NC's. History bears that out in every era of the game.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:34 am to Tupelo
Pretty sure they're tied with us ;)
Posted on 1/11/24 at 7:37 am to AUTiger789
Erickson did pretty good following Jimmy Johnston. Osborne followed Devine.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:01 am to Tupelo
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I was responding to his entire original post about why Lanning would want to follow Saban. I just didn't want to quote his entire post.
Gotcha! quote:I get that, but the other posters are correct. While Alabama is one of the most rock solid programs historically, when a legend leaves a school the expectations for a new coach are sky high. The pressure and stress is off the charts, and typically the next coach does not do as well and leaves, or is fired within a short amount of time. Lanning is at a school with reasonable expectations and very little pressure and stress because they have never won a title....which was your point. In short, he could stay at Oregon and make a lot of money with lower stress and have a lot of job security. If he were to win a title there he would instantly become canonized at Oregon.
The bottom line, because Bama is a better place to be if you want to win NC's. History bears that out in every era of the game.
If he were to go to Alabama and win a title it would be nothing special and he would instantly be expected to win another one and another one. It would become an expected result and very difficult to continue.
I think I get your point, but if I were a hot, up and coming coach I would stay as far away from Alabama as I could......unless I was at a lower tier school and going to Alabama was the best and fastest way to build a resume and my own brand. Lanning has that ability at Oregon.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:05 am to AUTiger789
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5. Ryans
He’s likely the coach of the year in the NFL. We were the worst team in the League and he won our division 1st year with a rookie QB. He ain’t leaving Houston. But if he did, it’d be a home run hire.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:07 am to AUTiger789
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Kiffin- first candidate on the list who would jump at the chance to go
He would walk to Tuscaloosa for that job
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:08 am to prplhze2000
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Erickson did pretty good following Jimmy Johnston. Osborne followed Devine.
But surely you agree those are the exceptions to the rule, right?
How about the biggest names and what happened after they left?
Paterno
Bowden
Hayes
Robinson
Schembechler
Switzer
and we won't even mention what has happened at ND. There are many, many more examples. We could go on and on.
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:18 am to AUTiger789
Rosanne Rosanna Dana wants to know what's all this talk about Orgeron?
Posted on 1/11/24 at 8:19 am to XenScott
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My money is on Kiffen,
Kiffin is the only logical quick replacement.
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