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Easy way to decide who should win the Heisman

Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:02 pm
Since all three QBs - Daniels, Nix and Penix - are clearly talented, I think there's a simple solution to who should win the Heisman: If all three QBs were on the same team, who would be the starter?

I asked this question to several of my co-workers and buddies - which included mostly Alabama fans, a couple of Auburn fans and even one ND fan - and without hesitation they all picked Daniels!

The general consensus was that Daniels is more talented all-around, better stats in just about every offensive category, played against better competition, played against better defenses and played against some of the best coaches in the country and no one could stop him!

One of the Auburn fans stated Bo Nix already showed he couldn't handle playing against SEC competition, so he shouldn't even be in the conversation. Never thought of it that way, but he does make a good point.

So who would you start?
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
1992 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:07 pm to
Easy...JD5 simply bc he was solid at zona st, and better at LSU

Nix sucked balls at Auburn, playing better defenses

and Penix..... I mean does anyone even watch Pac 12 football? I honestly haven't watched a game.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:10 pm to
I would start JD

quote:

Bo Nix already showed he couldn't handle playing against SEC competition, so he shouldn't even be in the conversation


I think this is stupid and I don't think Nix should win the Heisman. Players improve as they gain experience. He has been a great QB for Oregon...his stats simply aren't close to JD
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:11 pm to
Desperation. And Nix.
Posted by Bristol Tiger
Bristol
Member since Apr 2019
421 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:13 pm to
TOOL. Is you.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20293 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:14 pm to
STOP

JD is absolutely most deserving. That's not in doubt.

What your missing is that that is not what the Heisman is all about.

It's a PAC send off year. It's reflective in Oregon's rankings.

Bo's going to be hard to beat.

But, JD5 SHOULD win. Most deserving by far.
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:17 pm to
I think my buddy knows Nix has improved greatly, but it was one last chance to take a jab at his former QB. As fans, we would all most likely do the same in that situation!
Posted by epicopt116
Member since Nov 2017
1992 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

It's a PAC send off year.



I get you on this, but its stupid.... I mean if this is what voters are going off, then why even give the trophy attention...
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20293 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

then why even give the trophy attention

To send the PAC off.

I mean, why have Oregon in front of UTx, tOSU or, arguably, even Bama.

It's decided.

My hope is certainly that voters see through the veil and vote for Daniels. It's just that nothing related seems to indicate that they will at a national level.
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 4:44 pm to
Only 1 QB left a weaker conference for a tougher conference. Honestly Penix and Daniels would be a tough competition. Penix couldn’t stay healthy in the B1G, so he likely would’ve been injured in the SEC too. Daniels’ durability is outstanding. I’ve seen him take some hits that I didn’t expect him to get up from, and to recover from concussion protocol as quickly as he did is remarkable. Daniels’ passing is ultimately going to give him the edge against Penix. I really don’t know why Nix is in the conversation, but then I remember voters don’t watch football
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15680 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

I asked this question to several of my co-workers and buddies - which included mostly Alabama fans, a couple of Auburn fans and even one ND fan - and without hesitation they all picked Daniels!


Posted by Russianblue
Member since Nov 2007
1261 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:28 pm to
Nix looked damn good to me in their game last week. Nothing overly impressive but just super-consistent, playing within their system and executing at amazing level. His precision and accuracy was arguably better than JD...and I'm an JD homer all the way.

That said, the Heisman should go to the most dominant player. JD is that. But to those saying Nix has no business bc he only throws to the flats...I think that's a pretty lazy take.
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
422 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:39 pm to
Nix has no business in the same regard that Mac Jones had no business winning it, and mac Jones didn’t win it. He has a massive super clean pocket for over 3 seconds every play, and his receivers are almost always running with 2 yards of separation. Nix had 2 chances to win the game against Washington and he threw the ball in the dirt over and over again to open receivers. He looked like he was back at Auburn. I’ve watched Bo his whole career, and while he has improved at Oregon, he has no business winning the heisman

Edit:
quote:

Nothing overly impressive but just super-consistent, playing within their system

Nothing overly impressive is not Heisman caliber. Penix and Daniels are overly impressive. Hell, Milroe is overly impressive. Bowers is overly impressive. Drake Maye is overly impressive. Caleb Williams last season was overly impressive. Marvin Harrison JR is overly impressive
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 5:43 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:40 pm to
I prefer QB's that don't get knocked out of games and put themselves at risk constantly. So Nix or Penix.
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1754 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:46 pm to
LSU played against a bunch of weak defenses. It's no wonder JD was able to put up those numbers when playing that cupcake schedule.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
24008 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:57 pm to
Whichever is surrounded by the most talent?
Posted by Bird_Hunter
Chicago
Member since Nov 2023
787 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:58 pm to
Congrats to Bo Nix who is currently -185 to win the heisman!!
Posted by SwampyWaters
Member since Apr 2023
1901 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 5:59 pm to
quote:

LSU played against a bunch of weak defenses. It's no wonder JD was able to put up those numbers when playing that cupcake schedule.


LSU played against two of the best defenses in the country - Alabama and Texas A&M
Posted by Cryptonbarton
Member since Sep 2022
422 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:01 pm to
Didn’t LSU play against 4 top 25 teams and 2 top 10 teams?
Posted by BillyBoy22
Mandeville
Member since Mar 2018
2199 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:25 pm to
Mad Dog Sports just said they did somewhat of an exit poll with voters and it’s JD by over 60%
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