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re: I present to the rant: Brian Kelly is more dangerous than Dallas Turner
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The medical team cleared him, what more do you want?
If you are good with the way that it was handled then, congrats I guess.
I just think that it was a bad move on the HC and medical team but I am also just a fan.
Thought the lsu fans would have had a bigger issue with the way it played out.
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:47 pm to SidewalkTiger
You keep saying this, with no basis. They cleared him in 30 seconds... really?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:48 pm to BIGJLAW
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Thought the lsu fans would have had a bigger issue with the way it played out.
He shouldn't have been in the position to begin with if the already proven repeat offender wasn't taught by Bama coaches to intentionally injure players.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:50 pm to FreddieMac
Wasn't even illegal. The penalty was ridiculous. It's FOOTBALL you pussies.
That is all.
That is all.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:50 pm to FreddieMac
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Just admit it was a illegal hit and should have been a targeting
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:50 pm to BeeFense5
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He shouldn't have been in the position to begin with if the already proven repeat offender wasn't taught by Bama coaches to intentionally injure players.
Once again, your ignorance and hatred of Bama is clouding your argument. HE WAS CONCUSSED!
I guess it is plain to see that you are on the boat of worried more about winning than the safety of your most important player.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:00 pm to Crimson_Chaos
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You keep saying this, with no basis. They cleared him in 30 seconds... really?
I just went back and rewatched the sequence.
About 2 minutes, 50 seconds real time passed between the trainers getting to him and him returning to the field.
They were visibly asking him questions, he shook them off numerous times and said he was fine, they seemed more interested in examining his jaw than anything.
Not sure what else you want.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:03 pm to BIGJLAW
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BK knowingly sent in Daniels with a concussion and the only thing that saved him was the offsides penalty.
There was no offsides penalty.
Nussmeier threw an incompletion, Daniels came back, LSU got a false start.
They moved back 5 yards and called another play and lined up. LSU then called timeout and pulled Daniels.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
Hey, if that's considered sufficient... then its not an issue with Brian Kelly, its an issue with how the NCCA handles concussion protocol / testing. My point stands that you cannot argue player safety in regards to the hit without accounting for player safety in regards to sending him back into the game so quickly. I would think an avid supporter of player safety - which seems to be every LSU fan this weekend moreso than any other - would want the player to sit out for a drive for full evaluation.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:17 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There was no offsides penalty.
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LSU got a false start.
Semantics
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:19 pm to Crimson_Chaos
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Hey, if that's considered sufficient... then its not an issue with Brian Kelly, its an issue with how the NCCA handles concussion protocol / testing. My point stands that you cannot argue player safety in regards to the hit without accounting for player safety in regards to sending him back into the game so quickly. I would think an avid supporter of player safety - which seems to be every LSU fan this weekend moreso than any other - would want the player to sit out for a drive for full evaluation.
Its hypocritical of them but they are butt hurt that they lost the game.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:27 pm to BIGJLAW
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BK knowingly sent in Daniels with a concussion and the only thing that saved him was the offsides penalty. Brian Kelly needs to be investigated for that move.
He was more worried about trying to win the game than player safety.
All joking and trolling aside between this and the kid in the scissor lift it is a BAD look for certain.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:31 pm to FreddieMac
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Just admit it was a illegal hit and should have been a targeting. It is not why LSU lost, the fact we cannot stop anyone on defense is why we lost
It wasn't targeting because it wasn't called targeting...I think it could have been called but they didn't and apparently they reviewed it for targeting while he was laid out, very scarily laid out, on the field face down. Whether it was or it wasn't is immaterial to the fact that he was out for one play, that play was an offsides and he left and did not return and was in the concussion protocall. His mama was in the tent with him. That is some seriously fricked up shite to happen and Kelly is not doubt going to have to answer for it. Not fired, not suspended, but I bet he has to explain how that player got back on the field and without being hit again wound up in concussion protocol. This is not 1975.....that shite should have never happened. Even if he wondered back on the field on his own they should have called a time out and got him off the field...
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:32 pm to Crimson_Chaos
I thought he was hurt and shouldn't come back without a proper evaluation, not many guys can take the crown of the helmet to the chin and not get a concussion. IDK if he just answered all the questions correctly and that led to him getting the ok to go back in but when he didn't get the play off I think they realized they should do more testing. Don't act like he actually ran a play.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:33 pm to dkreller
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Maybe he passed concussion protocol on the field and then left the game again with jaw pain?
He cleared concussion protocol that quick after lying face down on the ground? That is unlikely.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:41 pm to AwgustaDawg
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He cleared concussion protocol that quick after lying face down on the ground? That is unlikely.
every player that gets dinged doesn't have to go through concussion protocol that i know of. Usually there are questions asked that if the player can't answer or is slow to answer makes the protocol mandatory.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:42 pm to AwgustaDawg
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That is some seriously fricked up shite to happen and Kelly is not doubt going to have to answer for it. Not fired, not suspended, but I bet he has to explain how that player got back on the field and without being hit again wound up in concussion protocol. This is not 1975.....that shite should have never happened. Even if he wondered back on the field on his own they should have called a time out and got him off the field...
It's been explained numerous times, the medical team cleared him.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:44 pm to Crimson_Chaos
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Hey, if that's considered sufficient... then its not an issue with Brian Kelly, its an issue with how the NCCA handles concussion protocol / testing.
I haven't researched it thoroughly but I don't believe there's any set protocol.
CFB players reenter games all the time with various injuries and then leave later.
Believe a player did basically the same thing as Jayden Daniels during an Ole Miss game this year.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:58 pm to Topwater Trout
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every player that gets dinged doesn't have to go through concussion protocol that i know of. Usually there are questions asked that if the player can't answer or is slow to answer makes the protocol mandatory.
Dude was walking around like an octopus, should have gone straight to the tent but winning is more important.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
Yeah, I'm not sure there are 100% hard rules in this regard. I don't ever want to see anyone get hurt, from any team. I think that this exposes how potential concussion situations are handled in the NCCA.
People who are upset about the HIT are different than people who are upset about the CALL. The HIT can be dangerous, and thus we have rules around it. We don't have clear rules around a player in JD5's situation being thoroughly evaluated before re-entering live contact.
People who are upset about the CALL simply wanted Turner ejected. LSU still received the same yardage penalty. The same hit still occurred. Changing the call means nothing.
Let's agree that JD5 got rocked with a dangerous hit. While I highly doubt it was intentionally dirty, LSU fans can have a different perspective. Let's also agree that JD5 should have been better protected / evaluated before re-entering the game... if we do indeed value player safety and are not just looking for a reason to complain.
People who are upset about the HIT are different than people who are upset about the CALL. The HIT can be dangerous, and thus we have rules around it. We don't have clear rules around a player in JD5's situation being thoroughly evaluated before re-entering live contact.
People who are upset about the CALL simply wanted Turner ejected. LSU still received the same yardage penalty. The same hit still occurred. Changing the call means nothing.
Let's agree that JD5 got rocked with a dangerous hit. While I highly doubt it was intentionally dirty, LSU fans can have a different perspective. Let's also agree that JD5 should have been better protected / evaluated before re-entering the game... if we do indeed value player safety and are not just looking for a reason to complain.
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