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re: SEC Titles since 1964
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Tennessee Georgia and LSU are all right next to each other
tennessee and LSU are next to each other in that each has a handful of major important categories they lead over the other. UGA is slightly ahead of both as evidenced by the above.
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:58 pm to WG_Dawg
There are other stats I could cite it just depends on how you want to slice it.
Good rule of thumb is if a team can overtake you with one or two seasons, you’re basically tied.
Good rule of thumb is if a team can overtake you with one or two seasons, you’re basically tied.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 3:58 pm to Dawgfanman
I have no idea on the legit/not legit for UT. The number I’ve seen is higher. But I also have no idea and don’t care enough to debate them. Didn’t realize y’all passed them in wins.
I looked at National Championships, SEC Championships, Total Win %, SEC Win %.
The only one UGA had over UT was SEC Championships by 1. I guess if your arguments about national championships is right then you have a case.
I looked at National Championships, SEC Championships, Total Win %, SEC Win %.
The only one UGA had over UT was SEC Championships by 1. I guess if your arguments about national championships is right then you have a case.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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There are other stats I could cite it just depends on how you want to slice it.
sure, you can pick and choose things like heismans or somethign like that that don't really matter to help craft an argument to make you look better. When comparing 2 teams' on field accomplishments, if you have to go deeper than:
national titles
conference titles
wins
win percentage
bowl appearances
bowl wins
weeks ranked
weeks ranked #1
then you've clearly already lost the argument. LSU has the head to head advantage sure, but is inferior in just about all the other ones listed above that actually matter. UGA is winless all time vs Pittsburgh but I doubt anyone would call them a better program.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:03 pm to Weagle25
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I have no idea on the legit/not legit for UT. The number I’ve seen is higher
They will probably claim 6, but if UGA claimed in the same manner we could claim 7. Some schools will accept any random 'ol service while others don't. 1951 and 1998 are surefire titles for them. 1940 and 1967 are surefire NOT. Whether they can/should claim 1938 and 1950 is open to debate.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:05 pm to WG_Dawg
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Some schools will accept any random 'ol service while others don't.
I don’t know if you know who our other rival is or not but yeah I know.
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:07 pm to Dawgvet
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It was '76 and it was a retroactive title when the NCAA made Mississippi State forfeit games for playing with an ineligible player. UGA beat KY that year 31-7 and therefore had the tiebreaker. They were given a co-championship.
Which in essence is a push since we would’ve had one in 1977 with an undefeated record in conference but were “ineligible”. Our only loss that year was to Baylor and that 77’ team beat #4 Penn State on the road.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:07 pm to Weagle25
That KY team was legit. I remember them when I was a kid.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:08 pm to WG_Dawg
Like I said they’re all close enough that one or two years could tilt it so by definition it’s not definitive.
Hell LSU could win out this season and have more NCs and just 1 less SEC title.
When your margin is that fine it’s pretty dumb to argue one school as DEFINITELY better historically.
Hell LSU could win out this season and have more NCs and just 1 less SEC title.
When your margin is that fine it’s pretty dumb to argue one school as DEFINITELY better historically.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:11 pm to WG_Dawg
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tennessee and LSU are next to each other in that each has a handful of major important categories they lead over the other. UGA is slightly ahead of both as evidenced by the above.
Those metrics don’t tell the full story, and I wouldn’t put UGA over Tennessee. Doesn’t factor in SOS. If UGA had to play BAMA yearly, and play in the SECW, I am sure y’all would have slightly worse results.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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they’re all close enough that one or two years could tilt it
Well yeah, one or two years of on the field happenings. 2 years ago UGA isn't close to being in this disucsion. Now we are.
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Hell LSU could win out this season and have more NCs and just 1 less SEC title.
Right...and that would drastically change the argyument at that point. I'm talking abotu what has actually literally happened up to this point in time.
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When your margin is that fine it’s pretty dumb to argue one school as DEFINITELY better historically.
Why? The numbers are the numbers. More wins are more wins, more titles are more titles. The margin of how much more is pretty irrelevant.
For YEARS UGA was in the top 3 (behind bama and Tennessee) in all time SEC titles but lagged way behind on national titles, weeks at #1, etc. Whenever we talked about our SEC titles we were slapped down by not having won "big enough". Now we've overtaken everyone not named bama and the argument has shifted to "yeah ok well sure but you don't have a big ENOUGH lead over everyone else so there"
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:14 pm to WG_Dawg
You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you’re just not very smart. I’ll let you decide
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:14 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Ah, the last resort of someone who has no other argument on the topic. A movie quote and an elementary insult.
Glad you've ran out of things to discuss on the topic though so we can go ahead and formally declare this resolved.
Glad you've ran out of things to discuss on the topic though so we can go ahead and formally declare this resolved.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:15 pm to WG_Dawg
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Why? The numbers are the numbers. More wins are more wins, more titles are more titles. The margin of how much more is pretty irrelevant.
Michigan, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Nebraska, USC all have more wins than us all. Yet their schedules have been much easier. Again, stats don’t tell the full story.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you’re just not very smart. I’ll let you decide
This guy did this even before UGA won 2 titles. It’s just his thing.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:18 pm to Old Money
Fair enough I don’t bother trying to keep track of who is a goober and who isn’t on this board anymore.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:21 pm to WG_Dawg
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Recognized National Titles
UGA/LSU - 4
Florida - 3
Tennessee - 2/3ish
No.
LSU has 4 national titles to UGA's 3.
LSU has 16 conference championships to UGA's 15.
LSU also has the head-to-head over UGA, including 3-2 in the SECCG.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:28 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
We get it. Everyone - Bama, Georgia, and Tennessee all had their local laundromat name them champions every now and then.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:28 pm to Weagle25
Stop acknowledging Ole Piss
Posted on 10/23/23 at 4:33 pm to jangalang
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Everyone - Bama, Georgia, and Tennessee all had their local laundromat name them champions every now and then.
Everyone except LSU, maybe.
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