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re: Is Hugh Freeze better than Gus Malzahn?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:15 am to koreandawg
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:15 am to koreandawg
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Is Hugh Freeze better than Gus Malzahn?
for sure.
Gus had a somewhat innovative system that worked when it was new but once people got acclimated to it it didn't really work, which can be szaid about pretyt much any "new" system that's ever come out. Triple option, air raid, etc...they all get slowed down mightily once there's enough film on it.
Gus had success with Cam and Marshall because they were tailor made for his offense. Once he didn't have those guys, and people were more aware of his system, he plummetted. Then for some reason he tried to shoehorn guys that weren't cut out for that offense into it anyway which led to laughable results.
Freeze only won to the degree he did by rampant cheating, which you could argue isn't really possible now considering everyone can pay players legally so that takes his advantage away. But he's proven that he'll do whatever it takes, within the rules or not (typically not), to win.
I'm not "worried" about most teams as long as kirby is here, but I feel that AU is going to provide a greater challenge now than they did under gus or harsin.
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Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:22 am to WG_Dawg
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Freeze only won to the degree he did by rampant cheating
Leo Lewis would tell you otherwise.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:46 am to WG_Dawg
Gus' "system" was trapping D personnel on the field and exploiting it. He was outstanding at it. When the NCAA changed the sub rules, he wasn't able to adjust.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:08 pm to WG_Dawg
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Freeze only won to the degree he did by rampant cheating, which you could argue isn't really possible now considering everyone can pay players legally so that takes his advantage away. But he's proven that he'll do whatever it takes, within the rules or not (typically not), to win.
This is how you know...
Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:36 am to WG_Dawg
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Gus had success with Cam and Marshall because they were tailor made for his offense. Once he didn't have those guys, and people were more aware of his system, he plummetted. Then for some reason he tried to shoehorn guys that weren't cut out for that offense into it anyway which led to laughable results.
Those guys didn't work in part because once people realized his offense was incredibly simple and didn't really prepare anyone for the next level - mainly OL, it killed his ability to recruit OL. Our OL was an absolute mess by the time he left. We're still digging out of that and will likely have to heavily rely on the portal for another year or two there.
It's fine to run a "system" as long as you have concepts that prepare guys for the next level. That is not at all what Malzahn's offense was, and I really think that was probably the biggest reason to his downfall. Yes, he tried to bring in passing QB's, but they were often running for their life behind those terrible OL's the last few years of his tenure. We also had trouble getting elite passing QB's because of how simple that part of the offense was as well. It didn't develop anyone.
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