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re: Many schools have been gypped out of national titles, but 1983 Auburn was one of the worst
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
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There are quite a few pre 1970 across the country (as you pointed out). There very few if any after 1980.
Bama didn’t claim all their extra titles until the 1980’s, so your argument doesn’t hold up. Bear Bryant believed he won Bama’s first.
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:31 am to Auburn80
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Bama didn’t claim all their extra titles until the 1980’s, so your argument doesn’t hold up. Bear Bryant believed he won Bama’s first.
The 1983 Bama media guide, claiming only 6 National Championships. Yet somehow pre-Saban they claimed 12, despite only winning 1 in between 83 and Saban's first in 09
Hmmmm.... very curious....
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:37 am to Auburn80
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Bear Bryant believed he won Bama’s first.
What?
Where did you dream this? He often talked about Bama winning its first in 1925 in the book "Coach" and that is what made him want to attend Bama.
If you are gonna take the Rose Bowl games, which were considered the national title game pre AP era then Southern Cal, Notre Dame would like to have a word. Notre Dame didn't even start playing in bowls until 1970
which by your logic gives them a national title in 1973, 1977 and 1988.
Here's from Wikapedia:
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It is a tradition by players to touch it on their way out of the locker room. Above the sign is a listing of Notre Dame's eleven national championships.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 7:43 am to Auburn80
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Bama didn’t claim all their extra titles until the 1980’s, so your argument doesn’t hold up. Bear Bryant believed he won Bama’s first.
What does that have to do with the fact that nobody claims titles in the 90s and 2000s in years they didn't win the AP or Coaches?
Alabama (outside of the fraud of 1941) did what a lot of schools did - go back to the pre poll era and claim titles based on polls after the fact (since none existed at the time). Any title for any reason pre-poll era was awarded after the fact.
And Alabama's claims for pre-poll era titles are all teams that won (or in one case tied another undefeated) in the Rose Bowl against a conference champion from a different region of the country. You can argue that those aren't truly national titles or others were as or more deserving, but Alabama claiming them is pretty standard and reasonable given the college football landscape of the day. More so than many, because they didn't just play their region, they finished the year playing the best team from another region (in their region).
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 7:47 am
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